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Re: Meteorologists have never actually measured the comparative weight of moist air.

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On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 1:22:45 AM UTC-8, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 20/02/2016 v 23:59 Sam Wormley napsal(a):
> 
> >  > It is *lighter than air* and *triggers convection currents* that can
> >  > lead to clouds.
> 
> While this is true,
> the major cause of convection is thermal,

No.  Not true. Warmer air absorbs more moisture droplets.  It is almost always heavier even than cooler air, for that reason.


> higher temperature causing lower density and buoyancy.
> (There is also turbulent and orographic convection.)

Any idiot can look this up on the internet, as you did.

Like all science groupies you think doing an internet search makes you an expert.  The fact is the experts aren't talking, for a reason.  And that reason is that their science doesn't add up.  It's just propaganda, like global warming.



> 
> Above the condensation level,
> condensation makes the trick with lowering of adiabatic gradient,
> as cooling of up-going air is slowed by the latent heat.
> 
> This is helping to keep the buoyancy of the up-going cloud parts,
> typically in Cumulus and Cumulonimbus clouds,
> forming those known cauliflower-like structures.

Cauliflower structure is easily explained without convection.

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