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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Note pad |
| Date | 2021-01-02 21:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d207ch-b5f.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <rso1i3$2b1$1@news.mixmin.net> <42h4ch-huv.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <rsotqp$1g8f$1@gioia.aioe.org> <8v56ch-51g.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <rsq9cu$eqf$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
On 02/01/2021 18.09, Arlen Holder wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 13:36:24 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Around here, maybe depending on the shop, now the clerk does not setup >> the phone, or asks written permission to do so. > > Hi Carlos, > > I have no beef from a technology standpoint of having someone else "set up" > your phone, but my worry is privacy. > > Then again, I help my neighbors with their rooftop WISP antennas where I > have the password to every single one of them, and they trust me. :) > > And I help them with their repairs, and I help them cut down dead trees, > and I help them with their pool chemicals, and I help them with their well > pumps, etc., and they trust me. :) > > I also belay them down cliffs... and they trust me. :) > o Some people are trustworthy; so maybe the store clerk is as good as I? Maybe the person doesn't want to bother a friend with the request and owe him/her a favour? :-D There is no reason to distrust a clerk at a reputable store. They will not type your password and keep it, they are not interested :-) In fact, people may trust the clerk more than a friend, because they want to keep somethings private out from their friends prying eyes and hands. And gossip. An unknown is nobody, doesn't matter what they get to know. Of course, this is not always so. > >> Depends on the point of view :-) > > Understood. > > Some people consider it a blessing that their personal contacts are > automatically uploaded to Google's servers. I don't. Who cares? I might care, but it is pointless when many of my contacts already have google accounts, use facebook, etc. I gave up. >> When you buy a washing machine, a gas cooking range, a refrigerator, an >> air conditioning unit, do you set it up yourself, or do you get a >> professional to do it for you? I guess the later. > > I don't know how you Europeans do things, but we Americans, at least those > of us who live in the mountains, do a _lot_ of our own work ourselves. > > For example, I keep cars for 25 years, and they have never seen a mechanic > save for recalls and warranty repairs (when in the original warranty > period). The only time I have someone else install a kitchen or laundry > appliance is if the installation was already included in the cost (which it > is for Costco stuff, but when you move, you just install them yourselves in > the new home). Here, it is forbidden that the owner installs the gas appliances. You need a certified installer and a periodical inspection for leaks and compliance. They even do a test of the exhaust from the hot water flash boiler to verify that it burns properly. I simply don't have the equipment, and certainly I don't have the certifications. As for other stuff, the warranty on the machines may be voided if not installed by a proper technician. The washing machine I would not have been able to move it myself, so... The air conditioner also needs a certified technician to handle those gases, which are controlled substances sometimes. Other AC units may use flammable gasses. There are papers to sign. ... >> Sync for Joplin is not mentioned as a key feature. >> I see: >> Pro: Dropbox support >> Can sync using Dropbox. >> Con: Sync issue under Linux >> The Linux client has a bug that requires the user to click the mouse >> frequently in order for sync to proceed. This bug has been open for a while. >> Con: Sync issues on Windows >> No way to change account settings and sync easily corrupted. > > Understood. > o Joplin was my off-the-cuff response to Keep given I don't use Google stuff. Oh, I'm certainly interested in that application, I might set it up for me. >> It is normal to take a quick note on the phone, then continue write the >> complex part on the computer. Or the reverse, you prepare the note on >> the computer first, then use them on the street. If you have the >> feature, you use it. If you never try, you don't miss it :-) > > Understood, although a text file works on all platforms, does it not? > o All it has to be is "saved & accessible" when & where you need it. It is the saving to somewhere accessible which is the difficulty, and the beauty of the "cloud". I certainly can do without, but I appreciate the niceties. >>> I'm not so sure it's "as transparent" on iOS, MacOS, Windows, & Linux. >> >> Oh, many people login to Google on their computers most of the time. >> They may do it for reading email on the browser, which means they are >> automatically in for youtube or any other "app" on the browser. > > Understood, although I use YouTube alternatives on all platforms, such that > I keep my IP address and what I watch and search for and subscribe to out > of Google's paws (as much as I can). > > But I do understand and agree that most people do not. Some do intentionally log into youtube so that it keeps their history of what they see and the AI suggests to them new cute cat videos to watch :-) I don't. > In fact, when setting up other people's computers, I'm always shocked that > when I go to "maps.google.com" it essentially knows where they live (even > more so than from a simple geolocation of their IP address would get them). > > I still don't know how Google does _that_ as it doesn't do it for me. :) It depends on the IP mapping of their internet supplier. Some are better mapped than others. >> Similarly I use different profiles each for Amazon, Facebook, etc. > > Understood and agreed, where I'd use different browsers altogether. > o (see philosophy described above) It is effectively different browsers. Different PID. > >> Ah, and I refuse to use Facebook on the phone. I remove the app. > > Understood and agreed as I do likewise. > o Google, Apple, Microsoft & Facebook are essentially banned... > > Although, for Android, banning Google is problematic... > o And banning Microsoft on Windows is problematic... Linux. > > Just as I banned "Unity" on Canonical's Ubuntu > o And as I shun Apple crapware on my iOS devices > > Where I have many threads, as you're aware, on the topics of doing so. > >> Spain. Yes, your agencies also spy on us over here. > > Understood. > o And agreed. > > BTW, I admire Franco was one of the few men who stood up to Hitler > o Just as Tito stood up to Stalin Huh, no, he did not. He was similar to him. > > Hitler was said to have claimed he'd rather get a tooth pulled > than visit Franco to ask again he take Gibraltar for him. :) he was bored to hell by him, he talked to much. > > Likewise, we all need to stand up to the well funded TLAs > o And the well-funded MARKETING organizations (IMHO). > -- Cheers, Carlos.
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