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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Note pad |
| Date | 2021-01-01 22:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <42h4ch-huv.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <bbl3ch-i93.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <sdiuufpfaqb8hrnqrf5thj5mmbd015i42k@4ax.com> <rsnj4q$1lm4$1@neodome.net> <q9b4ch-k4l.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <rso1i3$2b1$1@news.mixmin.net> |
On 01/01/2021 21.43, Arlen Holder wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 20:55:06 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Means that you need sometype of contract with a cloud provider, or roll >> your own. > > Hi Carlos, > > Happy New Year! > > I realize my question to you is a difficult question to answer because you > have a different mindset than I do on privacy (and that's perfectly fine). I'm aware. > But, to your point of "sometype of contract with a cloud provider", doesn't > "Keep" have "sometype of contract with Google as your cloud provider?". Certainly. But the contract with Google is "automatic", you get it as soon as you buy the phone and the shop clerk sets up the phone for you. To use keep, if it is not installed already, it is just tap to install the app, add the icon to the "desktop", done. Just tap to use and write. It is really trivial to use. People often also use gmail via web browser on the computer, which has a menu for more apps, so click there on keep and get the same notes as you have on the phones. With any other cloud provider I first have to actually contract them, perhaps pay them, and actually write configuration on the apps. > I mean, for example, don't you have to log into Google for Keep to do what > it is you want it to do? (That's "sometype of contract", just as OneDrive > is "sometype of contract" and just as DropBox is "sometype of contract", > are they not?) The phone is perpetually logged into Google, since day one. It is so transparent that people do not even know they have a google account and password. This is typically setup by "somebody else", maybe the shop clerk, maybe friend or family. Once done, you need doing nothing for "years" (I have the same phone since 2018). ... > You mentioned "sync" and someone patted you on the back for that, where I > noted if all you want is "sync", then that's not hard to come by (and yes, > trivially so, e.g., I can sync any file I want with Android, if I want to, > simply by using some sort of freeware file sync program, can't I?). That is far from "trivial". > > I'm not sure how important that double-editing-at-the-same-time "feature" > is, as you only have one set of hands, but let's assume that's a critical > feature. How does not saving the file to your own SMBv3 USB stick on your > own SOHO router not accomplish the same thing (and yes, trivially so)? I know several people with phones that would be completely baffled by that idea and not know how to do it. Even if I write detailed instructions step by step. I tried. And it would not sync out of home. Yes, syncing on two devices is interesting and I use it. For example, say I write a note while on the street. I get home, add some thing to the note (change from GSM signal to WiFi signal transparent). I sit. I pick up the tablet, and continue writing on the same note. Or, create a note and share it with somebody else. The note is a shopping list. As we go our separate ways, each one ticks on the list the items that have been purchased, in our respective phones. This is all automatic, needs no configuration, no registration. Sure, there is no guarantee as to privacy. I don't care that google can know that I want to buy a tin of beans and another of artichokes. Most people don't care. Really private items are kept out of the phone. If I wanted privacy, I would not use any USA cloud provider, either, it would have to be a fully EU-one. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Note pad Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2021-01-01 13:34 +0000
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-01 14:40 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-01 15:52 +0000
Re: Note pad Davidm <davidm_uk-notme@hotmail.com> - 2021-01-01 16:11 +0000
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-01 16:37 +0000
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-01 20:55 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-01 20:43 +0000
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-01 22:33 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 04:46 +0000
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 13:36 +0100
Re: Note pad AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-02 08:40 -0700
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 18:49 +0000
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 20:38 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:12 +0000
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 20:36 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 17:09 +0000
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 21:01 +0100
Re: Note pad AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-02 14:36 -0700
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-02 22:55 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:12 +0000
Re: Note pad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-03 22:54 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 00:21 +0000
Re: Note pad philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-01 09:50 -0600
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-01 16:19 +0000
Re: Note pad philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-01 10:56 -0600
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-01 17:32 +0000
Re: Note pad philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-01 11:49 -0600
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-01 19:32 +0000
Re: Note pad philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-01 17:44 -0600
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 00:17 +0000
Re: Note pad philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-01 18:36 -0600
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 04:53 +0000
Re: Note pad philo@novabbs.i2p (philo) - 2021-01-02 01:47 +0000
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 05:06 +0000
Re: Note pad philo@novabbs.i2p (philo) - 2021-01-02 05:34 +0000
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 17:09 +0000
Re: Note pad philo@novabbs.i2p (philo) - 2021-01-02 19:12 +0000
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 20:12 +0000
Re: Note pad philo@novabbs.i2p (philo) - 2021-01-03 02:49 +0000
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 21:55 +0000
Re: Note pad philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2021-01-03 17:44 -0600
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 01:05 +0000
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 01:49 +0000
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 02:19 +0000
Re: Note pad VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-01 10:12 -0600
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-01 16:33 +0000
Re:Note pad Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@gmailCAPITALS.com.INVALID> - 2021-01-02 14:43 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-02 18:44 +0000
Re: Note pad Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@gmailCAPITALS.com.INVALID> - 2021-01-03 10:29 +0100
Re: Note pad Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@gmailCAPITALS.com.INVALID> - 2021-01-03 11:05 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-03 21:55 +0000
Re: Note pad Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@gmailCAPITALS.com.INVALID> - 2021-01-05 21:37 +0100
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-05 23:58 +0000
Re: Note pad Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@gmailCAPITALS.com.INVALID> - 2021-01-07 18:03 +0100
Re: Note pad Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 14:18 +0000
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