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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Note pad |
| Date | 2021-01-02 13:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <8v56ch-51g.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <rsnj4q$1lm4$1@neodome.net> <q9b4ch-k4l.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <rso1i3$2b1$1@news.mixmin.net> <42h4ch-huv.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <rsotqp$1g8f$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
On 02/01/2021 05.46, Arlen Holder wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 22:33:24 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: ... >>> But, to your point of "sometype of contract with a cloud provider", doesn't >>> "Keep" have "sometype of contract with Google as your cloud provider?". >> >> Certainly. But the contract with Google is "automatic", you get it as >> soon as you buy the phone and the shop clerk sets up the phone for you. > > Understood. > > BTW, I've never had a "shop clerk" set up a phone for me. > o Mine arrive, usually by post or from Costco, where I'm the 1st user. Around here, maybe depending on the shop, now the clerk does not setup the phone, or asks written permission to do so. ... >> It is so >> transparent that people do not even know they have a google account and >> password. > > Understood. > o Although that's a sad thought. Depends on the point of view :-) > >> This is typically setup by "somebody else", maybe the shop clerk, maybe >> friend or family. Once done, you need doing nothing for "years" (I have >> the same phone since 2018). > > Understood. > o Although I think it would be crazy to let someone else set up their phone. No, it is not. It is just a fact. When you buy a washing machine, a gas cooking range, a refrigerator, an air conditioning unit, do you set it up yourself, or do you get a professional to do it for you? I guess the later. The normal thing to do is have a professional do at least the initial setup of any machine you buy. Why would we have to setup our computers ourselves, if we are not professionals? > > I used to factory wipe every month or so, but I don't factory reset much > lately as I've gotten pretty good at knowing what system apps to disable. > >> That is far from "trivial". > > Here's a table comparing Google Keep to Joplin for the Usenet record: > o <https://www.slant.co/versus/2120/24561/~google-keep_vs_joplin> Sync for Joplin is not mentioned as a key feature. I see: Pro: Dropbox support Can sync using Dropbox. Con: Sync issue under Linux The Linux client has a bug that requires the user to click the mouse frequently in order for sync to proceed. This bug has been open for a while. Con: Sync issues on Windows No way to change account settings and sync easily corrupted. > >> And it would not sync out of home. > > As far as I know, a USB stick in a SMBv3 port on a SOHO router works > fine away from home (if you have a static IP address as I have). But most people do not. I don't. I have a dynamic name host, so I can reach my IP of the time. But I am paranoid about its security, and I tell you that remote sync will not work with it. Not as normally understood, it is a complex procedure. > > But I agree with you completely that it's not for most people. > >> Yes, syncing on two devices is interesting and I use it. For example, >> say I write a note while on the street. I get home, add some thing to >> the note (change from GSM signal to WiFi signal transparent). I sit. I >> pick up the tablet, and continue writing on the same note. > > Understood. > > When I just now googled for the "best note taking apps", sync showed > up as a feature on many of them. > o <https://androidwaves.com/best-note-taking-apps/> > o <https://www.techradar.com/best/best-note-taking-app> > o <https://collegeinfogeek.com/best-note-taking-apps/> > etc. It is normal to take a quick note on the phone, then continue write the complex part on the computer. Or the reverse, you prepare the note on the computer first, then use them on the street. If you have the feature, you use it. If you never try, you don't miss it :-) > > Both Keep & Evernote (aka Joplin, in a sense) are on most of them. > >> Or, create a note and share it with somebody else. The note is a >> shopping list. As we go our separate ways, each one ticks on the list >> the items that have been purchased, in our respective phones. > > Understood. > >> This is all automatic, needs no configuration, no registration. > > Not really, but I understand what you mean. > > What you mean is a Google "registration" is transparent on Android. > o I'm not so sure it's "as transparent" on iOS, MacOS, Windows, & Linux. Oh, many people login to Google on their computers most of the time. They may do it for reading email on the browser, which means they are automatically in for youtube or any other "app" on the browser. I don't. If I have to, I use a separate Firefox profile, so that google can not track my every browser activity connected to my email and actual person. Similarly I use different profiles each for Amazon, Facebook, etc. Ah, and I refuse to use Facebook on the phone. I remove the app. >> Sure, there is no guarantee as to privacy. I don't care that google can >> know that I want to buy a tin of beans and another of artichokes. Most >> people don't care. Really private items are kept out of the phone. > > Understood. > o I generally don't put stuff on a phone that I'd be worried about either. > >> If I wanted privacy, I would not use any USA cloud provider, either, it >> would have to be a fully EU-one. > > Understood. > o There's a _reason_ we have a 2nd amendment (to keep the gob'ment honest) > > For us, I'm not sure if a EU cloud provider would work as well as it > might for you (in Portugal?) as we have the FBI watching us internally > and the NSA tapping everything we do that goes overseas. :) Spain. Yes, your agencies also spy on us over here. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-04 02:19 +0000
Re: Note pad VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-01 10:12 -0600
Re: Note pad Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-01 16:33 +0000
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