Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm

From	Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm
Date	2014-09-11 16:09 -0400
Organization	National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Scott Alfter wrote:

> In article <c7bikjFe8beU2@mid.individual.net>,
> RS Wood  <randy@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> When I made my first web pages in 2000, a better-informed friend taught
>> me to keep them below 35kB including images, given the time it takes to
>> download them.
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are any webpages left that clock in at fewer than
>> 35kb.  Not many, surely.  The 'big' news sites are horrendous, with
>> dozens of scripts, calls to 3rd party advert sites, trackers, and the
>> like.  Huffington Post has a code-to-content ratio of 100:1 for most
>> news articles.
>
> Craigslist is still pretty minimal, at least in appearance.  Let's see what
> it pulls in:
>
> $ curl http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ | wc
>    755    2677   50109
> $ curl http://www.craigslist.org/js/html5shiv.min.js | wc
>      1      60    2397
> $ curl http://www.craigslist.org/js/json2.min.js | wc
>      1      59    2979
> $ curl http://www.craigslist.org/js/general-concat.min.js | wc
>      9    2915  262176
> $ curl http://www.craigslist.org/js/homepage-concat.min.js | wc
>      1      56    4431
>
> ~315K for the local homepage, of which ~84% is scripts (and those are just
> the ones I was able to identify with a grep).
>
> Weighing a little bit in their favor, it looks like it's still navigable
> with Lynx, which won't pull in the external scripts.
>
Yes, I've used it with Lynx.

   Michael

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  Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm Rob <monst.oorzudo@ntlworld.com> - 2014-09-09 20:04 +0100
    Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-09-09 15:34 -0400
      Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm Rob <monst.oorzudo@ntlworld.com> - 2014-09-16 21:09 +0100
  Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-09-09 19:27 +0000
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        Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-10 18:40 +0000
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            Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-11 16:21 +0000
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            Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-11 22:36 +0000
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