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Re: Blocking web ads is 'as bad as Napster', says data firm

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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Mike Spencer wrote:

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> Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes:
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>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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>> 56 requests: 1,513.65KB.
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> Javascript and images turned off: 350KB
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> And unlike some sites, the in-page links are plain URLs, not js calls.
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I'd forgotten, but yes, that factors in on what pages I can use lynx for.

I got full internet access in August of 1996, and from then until June 
2001 (when I got a fancier computer to install Linux), the only browser I 
could run at home was lynx.  Actually, I dialed up my ISP and used lynx 
from there.

So for those five years, if a webpage wasn't compatible with lynx, the 
webpage really didnt' exist.

Now that I can run a graphic browser, it's a little different, but I don't 
think that much of pages that don't work with lynx.  It's faster and I 
don't see all those ads.

On the other hand, in the old days, it was rare to hit a site that turned 
me away for using lynx (well except for sites that used Flash throughout).
Even when there was a warning page "go away until you get a decent 
browser", it often turned out you could bypass that warning page, and see 
the site, though sometimes not perfectly.

But in more recent times, I've hit pages that seem to reject lynx at the 
server software level, all those 406 errors.  I don't remember seeing them 
until that certain point, and I know with some sites I've tried lynx with 
different names in the user agent header (even gibberish) and didn't get 
the error.  That's discrimination.

Of course, there are pages that still say "go away, we don't like your 
browser" and some that seem to reject lynx because they think I'm a bot
shifting through their pages.

   Michael

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