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| From | John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.kernel, linux.debian.devel.release |
| Subject | Re: Architecture baseline for Forky |
| Date | 2025-10-26 20:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <LKeBb-8ajD-11@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On Sun, 2025-10-26 at 20:12 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Oct 26, Tony Rodriguez <unixpro1970@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Why not support power 8 beyond 2028? It is still a good system and > > supports newer little endian. > > Because that's 15 years and Debian's purpose is not to enable > retrocomputing projects. I don't think that POWER8 would be considered retrocomputing given the fact that it's just three years older than POWER9. The first x86_64 CPUs were released in 2003 and are still supported by Debian. If hardware released between 2014 and 2022 (last POWER8 server sold is considered retro, then the original x86_64 hardware would be considered ancient, wouldn't it? While POWER8 hardware reached EOL at IBM last year, I don't think this should be decisive criteria. You can also argue that quickly raising baselines will cause more e-waste. > I think that waldi's proposal is quite reasonable. > > Next year probably we should also talk about RISC-V, when hopefully it > will be more clear what hardware will be available. Well, Ubuntu raised the baseline to RV23 before there was even any hardware available meaning that their upcoming RISC-V releases will run on QEMU only. I don't think that was a very clever move. In the end, software should support use case and not just be pet projects of developers. Adrian PS: Please avoid posting to debian-ports@ as this address reaches ALL ports mailing lists. -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
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Architecture baseline for Forky Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-10-26 13:40 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2025-10-26 14:20 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 08:40 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Tony Rodriguez <unixpro1970@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 19:40 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2025-10-26 20:30 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 12:50 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Martin <debacle@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 18:10 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> - 2025-10-27 22:40 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-10-29 09:00 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Peter Green <plugwash@debian.org> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Peter Green <plugwash@debian.org> - 2025-10-30 10:10 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> - 2025-10-30 10:10 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-10-30 15:30 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> - 2025-10-27 21:40 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 11:20 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 19:30 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky "Nikos Tsipinakis" <nikos@tsipinakis.com> - 2025-10-30 14:40 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Milan Kupcevic <milan@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 22:40 +0100
Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 23:40 +0100
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