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Planned obsolescence ? (was: Re: Architecture baseline for Forky)

From Romain Dolbeau <romain@dolbeau.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.kernel
Subject Planned obsolescence ? (was: Re: Architecture baseline for Forky)
Date 2025-10-28 10:00 +0100
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Le lun. 27 oct. 2025 à 22:58, Milan Kupcevic <milan@debian.org> a écrit :
> It would be more reasonable to count 7 years since mass sales or wide
> availability ends as hardware typically lasts 5 to 7 years in production
> environment.

Hardware lasts a lot longer. People are forced to update because
vendors have given up on support and are forcing users to upgrade.
It's called planned obsolescence, as I'm sure you all already know.

Debian is (at least up to now) the Linux distribution one could rely
on to support hardware as long as its actual life without forcing
users to upgrade. I have ~2007 (Penryn) systems still in use that were
deployed with Debian when new, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. If
it ain't broke, don't fix it, just upgrade Debian :-)

Debian isn't Microsoft. Debian isn't Apple. Debian isn't Google.
Please don't learn the wrong lessons from them. Planned obsolescence
is bad, not good.

Cordially,

-- 
Romain Dolbeau

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Architecture baseline for Forky Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-10-26 13:40 +0100
  Re: Architecture baseline for Forky John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2025-10-26 14:20 +0100
    Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 08:40 +0100
  Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Tony Rodriguez <unixpro1970@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 19:40 +0100
    Re: Architecture baseline for Forky John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2025-10-26 20:30 +0100
    Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 12:50 +0100
      Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Martin <debacle@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 18:10 +0100
      Re: Architecture baseline for Forky "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> - 2025-10-27 22:40 +0100
        Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-10-29 09:00 +0100
          Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Peter Green <plugwash@debian.org> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0100
            Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Peter Green <plugwash@debian.org> - 2025-10-30 10:10 +0100
              Re: Architecture baseline for Forky "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> - 2025-10-30 10:10 +0100
          Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-10-30 15:30 +0100
    Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> - 2025-10-27 21:40 +0100
  Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 11:20 +0100
  Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 19:30 +0100
    Re: Architecture baseline for Forky "Nikos Tsipinakis" <nikos@tsipinakis.com> - 2025-10-30 14:40 +0100
  Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Milan Kupcevic <milan@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 22:40 +0100
    Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-10-27 23:40 +0100
      Re: Architecture baseline for Forky Marc Haber <mh+debian-release@zugschlus.de> - 2025-10-28 10:10 +0100
    Planned obsolescence ? (was: Re: Architecture baseline for Forky) Romain Dolbeau <romain@dolbeau.org> - 2025-10-28 10:00 +0100
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