Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

From	Aurélien COUDERC <libre@coucouf.fr>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.project
Subject	Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion
Date	2025-03-08 14:30 +0100
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Le 8 mars 2025 13:43:26 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> a écrit :

> Having source code for the
>microcode would help gain confidence in it, and is the reasonable
>request.  If the request is denied, I would consider the vendor not
>trustworthy and look into options.

How about you try asking the vendors for that instead of speculating ?

Unless you come back with very unexpected good news you definitely need to look for alternatives.

As for Debian as a project we've voted on the topic not so long ago and decided we want to ship available firmware with the default installer. I don't see which new bits of information would make us vote differently now.


Happy hacking,
--
Aurélien

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Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-03-07 22:00 +0100
  Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2025-03-08 12:50 +0100
    Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-03-08 13:50 +0100
      Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Aurélien COUDERC <libre@coucouf.fr> - 2025-03-08 14:30 +0100
      Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion  of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-03-08 15:00 +0100
        Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion  of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-03-10 12:00 +0100
      Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-03-08 16:30 +0100
      Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2025-03-08 16:30 +0100
        Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-03-08 16:50 +0100
        Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of  Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Stephan Verbücheln <verbuecheln@posteo.de> - 2025-03-08 23:40 +0100
  Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of  Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Stephan Verbücheln <verbuecheln@posteo.de> - 2025-03-08 16:40 +0100

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