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Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

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Le Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:33:53PM +0100, Simon Josefsson a écrit :
> pandya@disroot.org writes:
> 
> > I urge Debian to rethink its decision to officially include non-free
> > firmware and correct the social contract. Instead of making non-free
> > firmware the default, Debian should ensure that users consciously
> > choose to install it while being made aware of the implications.
> 
> I agree and would personally come back to use Debian on some of my
> laptops if there was a supported way to install Debian from official
> installer images that did not promote non-free software by including
> firmware on them.
> 
> The recent AMD Microcode vulnerability is a good case-study on the
> dangers of permitting non-free code to run on your CPU:
> 
> https://bughunters.google.com/blog/5424842357473280/zen-and-the-art-of-microcode-hacking

Do not fall for the marketing. What was broken was the DRM which
forbid you to fix the firmware on your own CPU. This is no more a
vulnerability than letting you boot your own OS.

Cheers,
-- 
Bill. <ballombe@debian.org>

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Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-03-07 22:00 +0100
  Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2025-03-08 12:50 +0100
    Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-03-08 13:50 +0100
      Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Aurélien COUDERC <libre@coucouf.fr> - 2025-03-08 14:30 +0100
      Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-03-08 16:30 +0100
        Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-04-10 11:20 +0200
          Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-04-10 14:00 +0200
          Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-04-10 14:00 +0200
          Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Henrik Ahlgren <pablo@seestieto.com> - 2025-04-10 14:00 +0200
      Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2025-03-08 16:30 +0100
        Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-03-08 16:50 +0100

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