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Hi Ian,

A brief message from me this time!

At 2025-04-10T17:50:16+0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
[...]
> You're right that we're suffering because of the lack of working
> mechanisms, short of GR, for situations like this.

I agree with you and Russ that my interpretation "challenge" is not an
urgent matter.

Since I'm in a minority of one in my views (just like the good old
days!), I think people can understand that I'm also in no hurry to see
cement poured over rejection of my interpretation.  ;-)

(...without exploration of the perverse consequence I think arises from
said rejection...)

> Instead, the Leadership is supposed to be the front-line mechanism for
> oversight of Delegates, but it isn't working.  That's one of the "more
> fundamental problems" that I was suggesting would be a better focus.

I add that more Developers should be thinking about questions of
Constitutional interpretation more often, if they want to preserve the
democratic governance structures that we have, including ones that
haven't been weakened by failures to oversee Delegates.

To some Developers, such practice may feel awkward, and the muscles of
parsing legalistic language may require unaccustomed exercise.  But it's
worth doing.

...if we want to keep our democratic form of government.

If we don't, we can expect to be governed by personal cliques, fear, and
intimidation.

Citizenship, whatever the polity, is incompatible with passivity.

Regards,
Branden

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Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 14:00 +0200
  Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-10 20:10 +0200
    Re: a Constitutional interpretation question "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 21:30 +0200
      Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2025-04-11 13:20 +0200
    Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 14:00 +0200
      Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2025-04-14 21:10 +0200
        Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-15 17:50 +0200
          Re: a Constitutional interpretation question "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 18:00 +0200
          Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-04-16 01:00 +0200
            Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2025-04-17 00:20 +0200
          Re: a Constitutional interpretation question Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-04-16 03:20 +0200

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