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Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio

From davidson <davidson@freevolt.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio
Date 2023-08-13 02:20 +0200
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 Bret Busby wrote:
[snip]
> Hello.
>
> Could the List administrators please shut down both this thread and the 
> "unubscribe" thread?

In alpine, I have a filter rule that moves all debian-user messages
from my inbox to a dedicated folder.

Here is a sample of what I see in alpine, when I view the contents of
that mail folder, in threaded mode with threads collapsed:

%<------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     18284  9:42      Hans                          (7K)   Re: libkscreenlocker5:
   N 18285 Yesterday  peter@easthope.ca             (6K) > Crosshairs in gimp 2.1
   N 18288 15:45      Erwan David                   (8K) > Swap size in debain 12
     18292 12:35      Greg Wooledge                 (7K)   Re: Mailing list unsub
* N 18293 Wednesday  Carl Fink                     (6K) > Sound loses my analog 
*   18298 Thursday   glenn green                   (6K) > UNUBSCRIBE
   N 18332 11:44      Piscium                       (7K) > Cannot install Debian
   N 18339 13:45      peter@easthope.ca             (6K) > Time stamps on session
*   18342 14:49      gene heskett                  (6K) > setting up network wit
------------------------------------------------------------------------------>%

All 34 messages (at this time) to the UNUBSCRIBE thread are collapsed;
only the OP's initial message is visible. As long as I retain the
thread-initial message, subsequent contributions to that thread will
be invisible, in this collapsed view.

If a thread interests me, say Carl Fink's, I can expand it:

%<------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     18284  9:42      Hans                          (7K)   Re: libkscreenlocker5:
   N 18285 Yesterday  peter@easthope.ca             (6K) > Crosshairs in gimp 2.1
   N 18288 15:45      Erwan David                   (8K) > Swap size in debain 12
     18292 12:35      Greg Wooledge                 (7K)   Re: Mailing list unsub
*   18293 Wednesday  Carl Fink                     (6K) . Sound loses my analog 
*   18294 Thursday   Marco                         (5K) . \-Re: Sound loses my a
     18295 Yesterday  Carl Fink                    (30K) .   \-Re: Sound loses my
     18296  5:05      Marco                         (5K) .     \-Re: Sound loses
   N 18297 14:49      Carl Fink                     (6K)         \-Re: Sound lose
*   18298 Thursday   glenn green                   (6K) > UNUBSCRIBE
   N 18332 11:44      Piscium                       (7K) > Cannot install Debian
   N 18339 13:45      peter@easthope.ca             (6K) > Time stamps on session
*   18342 14:49      gene heskett                  (6K) > setting up network wit
------------------------------------------------------------------------------>%

But if a thread does *not* interest me, I don't expand it, and then
the only visible effect of subsequent contributions to that thread is
to promote the thread down the list (since threads nearer the bottom
are more recently active).

>
[snip]
> So, please, shut the two threads down, so the mailing list can return to the 
> subject matter for which the list was created and is maintained; discussion 
> of the use of Debian, and, seeking help with the operating system, and, not 
> the extraneous (extreme euphemism) "stuff", that has arisen, like a living, 
> growing, cesspool.

The foregoing demonstration is meant to show how, using alpine's
threaded mode, I minimise my irritation with threads that I find
irrelevant to my interests: I view debian-user in threaded mode with
collapsed threads, and simply do not expand the ones that don't
concern me.

I believe these are the config settings I use to enable this:

     ...
     [X]  Thread Sorts by Arrival
     ...
     Sort Key                          =
             Set    Sort Options
             ---  ----------------------
             ( )  Subject
             ( )  Arrival
             ( )  From
             ( )  To
             ( )  Cc
             ( )  Date
             ( )  siZe
             ( )  OrderedSubj
             ( )  scorE
             (*)  tHread
             ( )  Reverse Subject
             ( )  Reverse Arrival
             ( )  Reverse From
             ( )  Reverse To
             ( )  Reverse Cc
             ( )  Reverse Date
             ( )  Reverse siZe
             ( )  Reverse OrderedSubj
             ( )  Reverse scorE
             ( )  Reverse tHread
             ...
     Threading Display Style           =
             Set    Rule Values
             ---  ----------------------
             ( )  none
             (*)  show-thread-structure    (default)
             ( )  mutt-like
             ( )  indent-subject-1
             ( )  indent-subject-2
             ( )  indent-from-1
             ( )  indent-from-2
             ( )  show-structure-in-from
             ...
     Threading Index Style             =
             Set    Rule Values
             ---  ----------------------
             ( )  regular-index-with-expanded-threads
             (*)  regular-index-with-collapsed-threads
             ( )  separate-index-screen-always
             ( )  separate-index-screen-except-for-single-messages
     Threading Indicator Character     = <No Value Set: using ">">
     Threading Expanded Character      = <No Value Set: using ".">
     Threading Last Reply Character    = <No Value Set: using "\">

I like also to set the option below, because I find that being able to
collapse sub-threads turns out to be more confusing (to me) than it is
helpful.

     [X]  Slash Collapses Entire Thread

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UNUBSCRIBE glenn green <glenn.green55@gmail.com> - 2023-08-11 04:40 +0200
  Re: UNUBSCRIBE Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-08-11 06:40 +0200
    Re: UNUBSCRIBE Luna Jernberg <droidbittin@gmail.com> - 2023-08-11 09:00 +0200
      Re: UNUBSCRIBE Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-11 11:10 +0200
        Re: UNUBSCRIBE davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-08-11 16:00 +0200
          Re: UNUBSCRIBE Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-08-11 16:30 +0200
            Re: UNUBSCRIBE gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-08-11 17:00 +0200
              Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-08-11 20:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-08-11 23:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-08-12 00:50 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-12 01:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio zithro <slack@rabbit.lu> - 2023-08-12 02:10 +0200
                List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re: Mailing  list unsubscription requests and identificatio Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-12 03:00 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-08-12 15:30 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 03:40 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-08-13 02:20 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-08-13 02:30 +0200
                Sorting messages by threads - was - Re: List administrators - request  for intervention Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-13 05:10 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-08-13 05:50 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-08-13 21:40 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 22:50 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-08-14 19:00 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-14 00:40 +0200
                Re: List administrators - request for intervention - was - Re:  Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-08-14 20:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2023-08-12 03:20 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-08-12 04:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio zithro <slack@rabbit.lu> - 2023-08-14 18:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-08-14 21:40 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-08-12 18:20 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-08-12 21:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-08-12 05:20 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 01:30 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-08-13 19:00 +0200
                Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio tomas@tuxteam.de - 2023-08-12 06:50 +0200
            Re: UNUBSCRIBE Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-11 17:50 +0200
              Re: UNUBSCRIBE Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-11 20:10 +0200
                Re: UNUBSCRIBE Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-12 10:10 +0200
                Re: UNUBSCRIBE Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-12 12:20 +0200
            Re: UNUBSCRIBE debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-08-11 19:10 +0200
          Re: UNUBSCRIBE Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-11 20:00 +0200
            Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE fjd <moelmoel2714@gmail.com> - 2023-08-12 04:20 +0200
              Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-12 12:10 +0200
                Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE fjd <moelmoel2714@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 06:00 +0200
                Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE fjd <moelmoel2714@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 06:20 +0200
              Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-08-12 16:50 +0200
                Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-08-12 17:10 +0200
                Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-12 20:50 +0200
                Re: Alpine was: UNUBSCRIBE David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-08-13 01:30 +0200
    Re: UNUBSCRIBE Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-08-11 17:50 +0200
      Re: UNUBSCRIBE Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2023-08-11 21:50 +0200

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