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On 4/30/17, 7:42 PM, in article
e1576f6c-5c84-43bb-8c2b-ff60ffe353ae@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 10:32:38 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> The truth is as follows, and there is a direct solution to the issue:
>>> 
>>>     (1)  People have sin
>>>     (2)  Sin separates us from God, and enables us to listen to the
>>>          enemy of God, rather than to God Himself.
>>>     (3)  Sin condemns a person's soul to Hell.
>>>     (4)  Only when our sin is taken away are we set free from Hell.
>>>     (5)  Only Jesus can take our sin away because of what He did at
>>>          the cross.
>>>     (6)  The person forgiven of sin is no longer under punishment
>>>          for sin, and their judgment is taken away.  It makes them
>>>          alive again spiritually.
>>>     (7)  The born again nature (being alive again spiritually) will
>>>          assert itself in pronounced and wide-sweeping ways in the
>>>          true believer's life, resulting in changes toward the things
>>>          of God and away from the things of this world.
>>> 
>>> The truth has one voice, "Snit."  It is the voice of Jesus Christ.
>>> I urge you to pursue this and see for yourself if what I say is true
>>> or not.  Your eternal soul depends on it.
>> 
>> I respect you having that religious view. Mine is different (for one I am an
>> atheist). You will not see me attacking you for your religion, nor see me
>> trying to have you renounce your religion, but I find it immoral for you or
>> anyone to try to push your religious (or lack of religious) views on others.
> 
> Religion can be pushed upon other people, but nobody can push
> Christianity upon another.  True Christianity is not religion,
> but it is a transformation.  When a person is forgiven of their
> sin, they no longer have sin, are no longer under judgment for
> sin, and are then made alive again spiritually.  The old man
> passes away, and the new man is born.  Everything changes in that
> selfsame instant.
> 
> It's different than religion.  It's salvation.  It's what makes
> God's offer different than mere religion.  He is offering to save
> each person's eternal soul from death, and to restore them to
> eternal life.
> 
>> Jew. Christian. Muslims. Buddhist. Atheist. Wiccan. Does not matter to me
>> one bit... what matters to me is how you treat other people.
> 
> It does matter.
> 
> It matters because only Jesus Christ can take away sin.  All who put
> their faith in something else retain their sin, and will be judged for
> it when they leave this world, found guilty, and cast into Hell.
> 
>     http://biblehub.com/kjv/hebrews/9-27.htm
>     27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this
>     the judgment:
> 
> I teach these things because there are some that will repent, come out
> from the deception of this world, ask forgiveness, and be saved.  The
> rest will perish.
> 
> If you can hear His voice, listen to Him.  He's calling out to save
> you from Hell, to save your eternal soul.  The call is from within,
> and not from without, but you will know these words I write are true
> when they align with the call He makes to you on the inside, in your
> core, the part of you that is personal, distinct, well-known, and
> undeniable.

I often wonder if Christians have actually read the Bible... so many seem to
think it is a good source of teaching morality. I find that interesting,
given the actual lessons in it (some moral, some not).

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 14:28 -0700
  Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 15:00 -0700
    Re: Saving (not files) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 18:47 -0400
      Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 17:01 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 21:21 -0400
          Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:42 -0700
            Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 19:52 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:38 -0700
      Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:33 -0700
    Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:32 -0700
      Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 19:42 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 19:49 -0700
          Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 20:01 -0700
            Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 20:52 -0700
              Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 06:35 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:14 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 09:32 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:05 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 11:21 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:54 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:11 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:23 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:32 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:47 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:54 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:35 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 15:56 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 16:02 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 16:48 -0700
        Re: Saving (not files) Cardinal Basil Hume <Basil.Hume@invalid.invalid> - 2017-04-30 22:59 -0400
          Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 20:07 -0700
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