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On 4/30/17, 5:01 PM, in article
dd14f943-cb30-4af2-ab43-c74092b67efc@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 6:47:23 PM UTC-4, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 4/30/2017 6:00 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>>>> Elsewhere we talked about my email -- it is on this message. If you
>>>> wish to continue our conversation privately I am open to it. If not,
>>>> that is fine as well and no offense is taken.
>>> 
>>> I have said what I wanted to say regarding these spam posts.  There
>>> must be some way to approach an authority and get them halted.  I'm
>>> about to the point of investing time toward that end.
>>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>> Rick, don't feed the troll.
> 
> I feel like responding to you is feeding a troll, Jerry.  This
> will be my only reply to you on this subject.
> 
> -----
> Your suggestion, Jerry, falls short of my goal, which was to try
> to reach this person and tell them that what they're doing is wrong,
> and that they need to cease doing that.  I also taught that if they
> don't know what the right thing to do is to investigate Jesus Christ
> in the New Testament, because He will show them what to do in all
> ways to be right.
> 
>> And you won't get anywhere trying to get them halted.
> 
> I haven't tried yet, Jerry.  And I refuse to accept it from your
> personal authority and assurance that my attempts at action would
> fail, fall on deaf ears, or not bear fruit.
> 
> I've seen two testimonies recently which disprove guidance like
> yours:
> 
>     (1)  A young man had started college and was struggling.
>          His step-dad told him he should just quit school
>          because he'd never be able to graduate, and should
>          just drop out now and save the hassle.  Four years
>          later he got his diploma, and his step-dad was in
>          prison.
> 
>     (2)  A woman in my church had gotten pregnant when she
>          was in her mid-teens.  From a very poor family, out
>          of wedlock with the baby's father out of the picture,
>          with no family with education or upward mobility to rely
>          upon, she was advised by everyone (including doctors)
>          to have an abortion, or to give the child up for adoption.
>          She thought hard about it, but wound up keeping the girl.
>          She told us today at Sunday School, her happiest moment
>          was watching her graduate from college 21 years later.
>          It put a stamp on her choice, and all the effort it took
>          to get there, those many years later.
> 
> We don't know what's possible until we try, Jerry.  And giving up
> before we try is ALWAYS wrong.  And trying to do the right things
> for the right reasons is NEVER wrong, even if we fail in so doing.
> 
> You cannot affect change unless you move.  And the more people
> move for what's right in this world, the more right things we have
> changing in this world.
> 
>> This isn't the first newsgroup he has posted in, and
>> Google doesn't care.
> 
> Everyone posts using a unique MAC address, and this particular poster
> is using the same set of names.  And even if they flashed their network
> cards often, the sources of those messages could be identified fairly
> quickly by a deliberate search.  If, for example, it was some kind of
> person intent on doing real harm to a CEO or leader of some nation,
> those tools which already exist to track down such people would be
> brought to bear to track them down.  We just need to encourage these
> Usenet-related entities to act.
> 
> And if they won't act, then we need to move in and infiltrate their
> organization and implement change from the inside.  And if that's not
> possible, then we need to create an alternative which does enable
> that kind of filtering so as to provide those who wish to be spam-
> free an option which would then be spam-free.
> 
> And if we can't move in that way for whatever reason, then perhaps
> what's needed is new legislation to make it illegal to post spam to
> widely published groups like this because it is a literal theft of
> all of our machine and time resources.  We are harmed at large by
> such large intrusions, and this is exactly why governments exist:
> to protect the liberty of people against such intrusions.

Easier: Google should just kill the accounts. Sure, the flooders would get
new ones but if they were killed quickly it would soon be too much effort.
Google does have SOME safeguards around this: I know when I tested posting
from my gmail account through Google Groups of the two posts one had a
CAPTCHA. Presumably they have these on a good percent of posts... so somehow
the flooders have gotten around this. One said the answer was insomnia and
at least using partial manual work but that seems over-the-top, even for
him. Then again I have no better answer.

Anyone know how often Google asks GG users to prove they are human?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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  Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 15:00 -0700
    Re: Saving (not files) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 18:47 -0400
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        Re: Saving (not files) Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-30 21:21 -0400
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          Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 20:01 -0700
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                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 08:14 -0700
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                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:05 -0700
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                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 11:54 -0700
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                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 12:54 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 13:35 -0700
                Re: Saving (not files) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 14:25 -0700
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