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Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

From Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.vote
Subject Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Willingness to share a position statement?
Date 2021-03-25 22:50 +0100
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Hi Roberto,

On 25.03.21 18:59, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

> I understand that it is not always possible to be completely apolitical,
> even for Debian as an organization.

Pretty much everything Debian does is political.

Free software enables users' technical autonomy, and this completely
shifts power dynamics, to the extent that it allows communities that
aren't served by software and service providers to organize themselves.
This shift is a political process, and it is one explicitly desired.

The same communities give us feedback and also contribute back, and the
"technical" decisions we make based on that also have political
consequences. Communities with opposing political goals also make
technical recommendations that have political effects, and we'd do our
users a great disservice if we ignored that.

If the NSA suggests a random number generator, that is a political
action. Scrutinizing it is a political action. Shipping cryptographic
software is a political action. We wouldn't take a "neutral" stance
there, even though it is only tangentially related to free software,
because our priorities are "free software and our users."

Likewise, the free software community is a large part of what our users
come into contact with, and the conditions they find there will
determine the outcome for them. That, too, is part of our core mission,
closer to it in fact than the question of availability and security of
cryptographic software, and neither can we ignore it nor is there a
neutral option nor would a neutral option if it existed be in the
interest of our users.

   Simon

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  Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2021-03-24 00:30 +0100
    Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 01:10 +0100
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      Re: Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Akhil Varkey <akhilvarkey@disroot.org> - 2021-03-25 10:20 +0100
      Re: Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-03-25 23:30 +0100
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      Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 08:00 +0100
  Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Harlan Lieberman-Berg <hlieberman@setec.io> - 2021-03-24 01:20 +0100
  Re: Willingness to share a position statement? M dB <deblanc@riseup.net> - 2021-03-24 01:50 +0100
    Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2021-03-24 23:10 +0100
      Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2021-03-25 09:50 +0100
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            Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 18:40 +0100
            Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 19:00 +0100
              Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Margarita Manterola <margamanterola@gmail.com> - 2021-03-25 19:20 +0100
                Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2021-03-25 19:30 +0100
                Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 19:40 +0100
                Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 20:10 +0100
                Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <phls@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 20:20 +0100
                Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 19:30 +0100
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              Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 20:30 +0100
                Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 20:50 +0100
              Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 22:50 +0100
                Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 23:50 +0100
                Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: Willingness to share a position  statement? Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 01:10 +0100
                Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: Willingness to share a position  statement? Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 08:50 +0100
                Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: Re: Willingness to share a position  statement? Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 09:40 +0100
                Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: Willingness to share a position  statement? Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2021-03-26 11:50 +0100
                Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: Willingness to share a position  statement? Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 17:00 +0100
            Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2021-03-25 21:20 +0100
              Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Sruthi Chandran <srud@disroot.org> - 2021-03-25 21:40 +0100
          Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Filippo Rusconi <lopippo@debian.org> - 2021-03-26 00:30 +0100
        Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 18:10 +0100
      Re: Willingness to share a position statement? (rms-open-letter) Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 11:50 +0100
        Question to Jonathan: What did you Mean Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 17:00 +0100
          Re: Question to Jonathan: What did you Mean Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2021-03-25 18:20 +0100
  Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Sruthi Chandran <srud@disroot.org> - 2021-03-24 09:10 +0100
  Re: Willingness to share a position statement? Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2021-03-24 14:10 +0100

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