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Re: Buster with MATE without systemd

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	Hi.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> dbus, which is an xorg dependency,

Not in buster:

# apt policy dbus
dbus:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.12.20-0+deb10u1
  Version table:
     1.12.20-0+deb10u1 500
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages

# apt policy xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg:
  Installed: 1:7.7+19
  Candidate: 1:7.7+19
  Version table:
 *** 1:7.7+19 500
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


> but it itself has a systemd dependency.

Not in buster, again:

# apt policy dbus
dbus:
  Installed: 1.12.20-0+deb10u1
  Candidate: 1.12.20-0+deb10u1
  Version table:
 *** 1.12.20-0+deb10u1 500
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

# apt policy systemd
systemd:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 241-7~deb10u4
  Version table:
     241-7~deb10u4 500
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages


> To make a long story short, after two or so weeks of research and
> numerous failed trials, I came to the conclusion that systemd has
> become too entrenched in the dependency tree of Buster to successfully
> convert to systvinit.

But it is possible. Just forget about running any DE.


> Even trying to install something that has no systemd dependency at all
> depends on something, that depends on something else, etc. that has a
> systemd dependency.  And systemd gets reinstalled.

apt install something systemd-

Works wonders in cases such as this.

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Buster with MATE without systemd Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 04:50 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2020-09-16 12:20 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 14:00 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-16 14:00 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-16 14:40 +0200
    Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 15:10 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Nito <nito@dismail.de> - 2020-09-16 15:20 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 19:50 +0200
    Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-16 20:10 +0200
      Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 01:40 +0200
        Re: Buster with MATE without systemd David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-17 03:20 +0200
          Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 04:50 +0200
          Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 05:10 +0200
            Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 06:40 +0200
              Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 09:00 +0200
              Re: Buster with MATE without systemd "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> - 2020-09-17 09:10 +0200
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        Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-16 22:10 +0200
      Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 02:50 +0200
    Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-18 09:40 +0200
      Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-19 07:50 +0200
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