Buster with MATE without systemd

From	Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Buster with MATE without systemd
Date	2020-09-16 04:50 +0200
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I have a fresh install of Buster which is running MATE as the Desktop 
Environment.  It has taken me until now to get it working, without 
messing up my current Stretch install on the same machine.  The next 
thing that I want to do is replace systemd with sysvinit.  I am not 
trying to start a flamewar about which is better.  I want sysvinit, not 
systemd, let's leave it at that.

I ran 'aptitude install sysvinit-core'.  This resulted in about 2 dozen 
packages to be removed (some of which, I would have removed anyway) and 
a similar number with unmet dependencies (mostly recommends).  I can 
live with that and work around any issues once I'm running on sysvinit, 
so I accept the option.

This gives me another screen full of text that basically says that it 
needs a terminal emulator, but xterm is being removed.  It wants to 
install pterm and, again, leave a number of recommends as they are.  OK, 
I accept that option.

Now I get a full screen of packages to be removed.  Most are libraries, 
and what seem to be MATE virtual packages, along with some other 
packages, including the GIMP.  I DO want MATE and the GIMP.  This looks 
like a problem.  I cancel the install.

So, my question is:  Can I replace systemd with sysvint and still keep 
MATE?  Do I need to let aptitude uninstall MATE, and then reinstall 
after sysvinit has been installed?  Or have MATE and the GIMP been 
updated in a way that requires systemd and not sysvinit?

If it is possible to do what I want, what is the easiest way to 
accomplish it?


Marc

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Buster with MATE without systemd Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 04:50 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2020-09-16 12:20 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 14:00 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-16 14:00 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-16 14:40 +0200
    Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 15:10 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Nito <nito@dismail.de> - 2020-09-16 15:20 +0200
  Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 19:50 +0200
    Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-16 20:10 +0200
      Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 01:40 +0200
        Re: Buster with MATE without systemd David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-17 03:20 +0200
          Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 04:50 +0200
          Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 05:10 +0200
            Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 06:40 +0200
              Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 09:00 +0200
              Re: Buster with MATE without systemd "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> - 2020-09-17 09:10 +0200
              Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 09:40 +0200
    Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-16 21:40 +0200
      Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-09-16 22:00 +0200
        Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2020-09-16 22:10 +0200
      Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-17 02:50 +0200
    Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-18 09:40 +0200
      Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2020-09-19 07:50 +0200
        Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-19 13:50 +0200
          Re: Buster with MATE without systemd Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2020-09-20 01:20 +0200

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