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Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute

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Christopher A. Lee wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 13:47:19 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice Street"
> <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> wrote:
> 
> > Alex W. wrote:
> > 
> >> On 05/03/2016 12:42, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> >> > Alex W. wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > On 04/03/2016 23:04, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> >> > > > Mattb. wrote:
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > > Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > 
> >> >
> >
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/atheist-lawmakers-prayer-sets-off-arizona-house-dispute-37381282
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > An atheist member of the Arizona House denied the chance to
> >> > > > > deliver the chamber's opening prayer by majority Republican
> >> > > > > leaders last month got the opportunity Thursday, only to
> see >> > > > > leaders rule his prayer didn't pass muster and call up
> a >> > > > > Christian pastor.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > The opening prayer by Democrat Juan Mendez included a call
> to >> > > > > work to help the state and its residents flourish and to
> >> > > > > "honor the Constitution and the secular equality it
> brings." >> > > > > But he didn't pray to any deity, which infuriated
> some >> > > > > Republicans who are Christians.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Accoring to the article, 'House Majority Leader Steve
> Montenegro >> > > > said Mendez's decision not to pray to God didn't
> meet House >> > > > rules he issued earlier this year for the opening
> prayer.  >> > > > Speaker David Gowan then said "point of order well
> taken".' >> > > > 
> >> > > > If Mendez were Pastararian, he could've prayed to The FSM and
> >> > > > that would've satisfied the "House rules".
> >> > > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > Imagine the uproar if he had addressed his prayer to Satan....
> >> > 
> >> > He'd now be the most infamous man in America. And Satan is
> referred >> > to in the Bible as "the god of this world", so the
> prayer might >> > still have satisfied the House rule.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> If he wanted to toss a hyperactive cat among the pigeons, he should
> >> table a motion asking for a comprehensive universal definition of
> >> "god"...
> > 
> > They might've even killed him for that.
> > 
> > What would have happened in the UK for a comparable situation?
> 
> They don't normally start secular meetings with prayer, in the first
> place. The daily sessions in the House of Commons would seem to be an
> exception.
> 
> These are red by the Speaker's Chaplain.

Thanks Christopher.

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Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-03-04 14:13 -0800
  Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-04 23:04 +0000
    Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 09:08 +0000
      Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 12:42 +0000
        Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 13:03 +0000
          Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 13:47 +0000
            Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 14:04 +0000
              Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 14:31 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 19:14 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 12:18 -0700
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 19:28 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 21:08 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 23:28 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 16:53 -0700
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-06 12:41 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 23:46 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 23:53 +0000
              Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 23:46 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-06 00:07 +0000
                Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-06 19:56 +0000
            Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 19:15 +0000
          Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute Don Kresch <no@spam.org> - 2016-03-06 15:41 -0600
      Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 10:05 -0800
    Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 10:01 -0800
      Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 19:25 +0000
        Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 10:51 -0800
          Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-06 19:57 +0000
          Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-07 11:28 +0000
  Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2016-03-05 01:10 +0000
    Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 09:53 -0800
  Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 02:23 -0800
    Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 09:56 -0800
      Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 23:51 +0000
        Re: Atheist Lawmaker's Prayer Sets off Arizona House Dispute MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 10:54 -0800

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