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Re: Speed of light

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Speed of light
Date 2017-04-13 00:36 +0200
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kenseto wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 2:49:45 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> wrote:

Attribution *line*, _not_ attribution novel.

>> The speed of light in vacuum is c₀ = 299'792'458 m∕s.
> 
> This is an artificially

This is gibberish.  But if you mean “this is artificially”, then no, it is 
not: It is the result of increasingly precise attempts at measurement.

> The fields of QFT  defined speed and it is based on the circular
> definition for the meter that a meter is 1/299,792,458 light-second.

Such a nonsense, it is not even wrong.

Instead:

By 1983, measurements of the speed of light in vacuum had become so precise 
that, whereas in the International System of Units (SI) previously the speed 
of light in vacuum had been based on the meter, with the meter defined based 
on the wavelength of a specific emission line, it is now the other way 
around: the meter is defined as 1∕299'792'458 of the distance that light 
travels in vacuum in 1 second.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre#Wavelength_definition>
 
>> You can either say that the vacuum is the medium through which (_not_: by
>> which) light is transmitted, or as vacuum is defined as “space void of
>> matter” (QFTs notwithstanding), that there is no medium.  It is usually
>> generally stated that the transmission of light, and electromagnetic
>> radiation in general, does not require a medium.
> 
> The fields QFT do not exist without a medium.

Not even wrong.

> Weinberg said that the fields in QFT are stress and stains in a medium.

Most likely he did not.  But you may cite evidence.

-- 
PointedEars

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