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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) |
| Date | 2017-04-12 15:49 +0000 |
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes: >On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 4:22:31 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote: >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes: >> >> >On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 12:21:20 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> >> kenseto wrote: >> >> >> >> > Your argument supports the concept that light is being transmitted by a >> >> > medium occupying space. >> >> >> >> No, it does not. How did you get that idea? >> >> >You said that light takes 8 minute from the sun to arrive at the earth..... >> >that means that light is being transmitted by a medium and the speed of light >> >in that medium is 300,000 km/sec. With that speed it takes 8 minute for >> >light from the sun to arrive at the earth. >> >> No, Stupid Ken, it does not imply any medium in any way. The simplest >> counterexample would be, what if the sun sent out tiny bullets that >> traveled at 300,000 km/sec? Would those little bullets need a medium? If so, >> Why? >Moron light waves are not bullets..... Stupid Ken, light photons are not waves, either. Light has some properties of particles and some properties of waves. One of the particle properties of light is that photons don't need a medium to propagate. Stupid Ken, since electrons also have properties of waves (electron microscope or the double slit experiment using electrons, for example), will you also claim that electrons need a medium to propagate? >1. if you move toward a bullet source more bullets would hit you per second ..... >in other words, the speed of bullets arriving at you would increase. >2. If you move away from a bullet source less bullets would hit you per second... >in other words, the speed of bullets arriving at you would decrease. No, using the relativistic speed combination formula, if one speed is c, the resulting speed will be c no matter what the other speed is. So if you move toward a source of light moving at c, the light is still moving at c relative to you. If you move away from a source of light moving at c, he light is still moving at c relative to you. >According to SRT both of the above concepts for light are false. Nope. Maybe according to IRT they are false, but that is just one of many reasons why IRT is a complete, total failure.
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Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-11 11:25 -0700
Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-11 20:49 +0200
Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-11 12:17 -0700
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Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 06:34 -0700
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Re: Speed of light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-13 15:20 +0200
Re: Speed of light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 06:25 -0700
Re: Speed of light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-13 15:43 +0200
Re: Speed of light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-13 06:53 -0700
Re: Speed of light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 05:47 -0700
Re: Speed of light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-13 15:15 +0200
Re: Speed of light moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 16:54 +0000
Re: Speed of light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 10:44 -0700
Re: Speed of light moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 21:33 +0000
Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-11 20:22 +0000
Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-12 07:16 -0700
Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-12 15:49 +0000
Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-04-12 10:04 -0700
Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-04-13 05:22 -0700
Re: Speed of light (was: Science School) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-13 16:33 +0000
Re: Science School Nobody <nobody@nowhere.nohow> - 2017-04-11 00:41 -0400
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