Re: RfD: new double syntax

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: RfD: new double syntax
Date	2016-08-05 13:15 -0700
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franck.bensusan@gmail.com writes:
> But I find Erlang principles quite conservative as they copy each object
> they pass to another task. Even if I understand the benefits, I can't 
> resign myself to this...

I think I saw some benchmarks showing the copying cost was not that
much.  There are some optimizations like sharing of large binaries (what
other languages would call strings), and ETS tables are somehow shared
behind the scenes in ways that are invisible to the client processes.
The benefit is that each process has its own GC, so the individual heaps
are small and some processes can run while others GC, minimizing
latency.  Erlang is supposed to be a soft real-time system so they are
willing to take some amortized overhead in order to minimize latency.

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RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-01 17:18 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 11:45 -0700
    Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 14:46 -0400
  Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:47 -0700
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:54 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax mhx@iae.nl - 2016-07-01 11:48 -0700
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:52 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-01 09:10 -1000
    Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 19:10 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 06:23 +0000
  RfD: new double syntax krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2016-07-01 20:54 -0700
    RfD: new double syntax krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2016-07-01 21:18 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 22:26 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 22:32 +0000
          Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 01:16 -0400
            Re: RfD: new double syntax Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 08:34 +0300
              Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 03:00 -0400
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 10:20 +0300
                Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 08:29 +0000
            Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 23:10 -0700
              Re: RfD: new double syntax Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 23:20 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 03:02 -0400
      Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:20 +0000
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:11 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-07-02 00:26 -0700
    Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-01 22:22 -1000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-07-02 22:02 +1000
        Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-02 11:19 -1000
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:02 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-02 04:03 -0500
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 13:44 +0000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 07:38 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 07:42 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-02 09:58 -0500
      Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-02 11:32 -1000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-03 00:27 +0000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 08:05 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-04 03:50 -0500
        Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-04 03:53 -0500
  Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 17:32 +0000
    Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 10:52 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2016-07-02 13:03 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 15:02 +0000
        Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 11:18 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2016-07-03 21:19 +0200
    Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-07-03 11:36 +0100
      Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:58 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 14:21 +0000
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 07:55 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 08:08 -0700
            Dealing with multiple recognizers (was: RfD: new double syntax) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 15:13 +0000
              Re: Dealing with multiple recognizers (was: RfD: new double syntax) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 09:57 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 01:12 -0400
            Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 07:56 -0700
              Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 11:18 -0400
        Re: RfD: new double syntax JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-03 08:15 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-03 12:42 -0500
          Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-03 09:32 -1000
            Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 07:34 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 10:35 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 09:00 -0700
            Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 09:51 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-04 11:20 -0500
            Re: RfD: new double syntax Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 04:08 -0700
              Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-06 06:24 -0500
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Alex McDonald <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-07-06 12:38 +0100
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-06 06:46 -0500
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 13:37 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-07 03:28 -0500
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-08-04 23:59 +0000
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-08-04 19:26 -0500
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 17:34 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-05 02:57 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-05 13:15 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-06 01:56 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-07 17:22 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-08 04:56 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-08-08 08:50 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-08 12:26 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-08-08 15:41 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax mhx@iae.nl - 2016-08-08 23:06 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-08-09 00:57 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-09 03:05 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-10 01:46 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-10 19:07 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-11 05:24 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-08-06 04:50 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-08-05 12:01 -0500
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-04 08:51 -0500
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-04 04:03 -0500
      Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 14:56 +0000
        Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-07-03 22:00 +0100

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