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| From | krw <krw@somewhere.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? |
| Message-ID | <7d9n2cthde7eq3rfcd12241kkgv94acci5@4ax.com> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <o08i16$33e$8@dont-email.me> <6ush2c173uqejf0a5kca0c04oqim5a3v1s@4ax.com> <o0dibb$ndk$2@dont-email.me> <28nk2c5eauhcgn7hkbs1r6b4rnv2emnd30@4ax.com> <o0g403$do3$1@dont-email.me> |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2016-11-15 19:20 -0500 |
On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:00:21 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> wrote: >On 11/14/2016 6:56 PM, krw wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 17:46:27 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >> wrote: >> >>> On 11/13/2016 5:14 PM, krw wrote: >>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 20:10:40 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/12/2016 7:56 PM, krw wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 19:48:13 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/12/2016 3:20 PM, M Philbrook wrote: >>>>>>>> In article <o07naa$33e$2@dont-email.me>, Sophi.2@invalid.org says... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2016 11:03 AM, M Philbrook wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In article <xn60nt2y7f.fsf@delorie.com>, dj@delorie.com says... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> writes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 phase? Please educate me on this. I know that single phase and 3 phase >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are common, but I have never encountered 2 phase. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> really? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> two leads 90 degree shift.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How often have you encountered a mains supply with 90 degree phase >>>>>>>>>>>> shift, smart ass? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nikolas Tesla invented it long ago. Just because it isn't used for >>>>>>>>>>> mains *now* doesn't mean he can't know what it is. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, it's what stepper motors use, and we encounter those every day. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, he didn't mention "mains" in that follow-up. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, replying to pedantry with jackassery is lame. >>>>>>>>>>> (whereas the opposite is just plain fun ;-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> actually there is an old place near me that uses 2 phase power./ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jamie >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does the old place generate its own power? The power company does not >>>>>>>>> provide two phase power. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, they have both a water generation plant and scott connection >>>>>>>> transformers from commercial 3 phase to fill in when they need it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jamie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So it is not 2 phase, it is 3 phase with a lame connection. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, he said 2-phase. The Scott-T is used to transform three-phase, as >>>>>> supplied by the power company, into the 2-phase this old installation >>>>>> requires. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please explain how it is used without the fill-in. Two phase motors? >>>>>>> Note that three phase is completely different from two phase. The phases >>>>>>> are 120 degrees apart in 3 phase (with a common reference which requires >>>>>>> 3 wires) whereas 2 phase is 90 degrees apart (also requiring 3 wires), >>>>>>> even according to you. Why would they use a Scott-T when 3 phase is >>>>>>> already available. Pretty stupid -- just like you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Because "he" needs two-phase and only three-phase is available from >>>>>> the power company, thus the Scott-T. He is pretty clear, here. >>>>> >>>>> What is the advantage of two phase power? >>>> >>>> It exists. >>> >>> Now you are just being an argumentative ass. Many things exist that we >>> do not use because they are not practical. >> >> Idiot. They exist because they were practical. > >And how long ago was that, Idiot? It doesn't matter, moron (only morons capitalize words in the middle of sentences). It exists, when you _still_ maintain that it doesn't. Not only that, you believed that you can't convert from 3-phase to 2-phase with a passive device. As I said, turn in your degree! > >Sure. About 60 or so years ago. For a couple of years, maybe. Try buying >2 phase power from the power company now. I know 2 phase power can be >created with a Scott-T so you will have to buy 3 phase power first and >then spend more money to create the Scott-T. What will that get you >other than loss of money? Completely irrelevant. You can't buy DC from the power company, either. > > >> You didn't even know what a Scott-T was. Turn in your degree now. >> > >An ass-umption of yours, dip-shit. Turn in your brain now. It has little >to offer. Not an assumption at all, asshole. You were told about it many times and still said it was impossible. Turn in your degree now!
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