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Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA?

From John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA?
Date 2016-11-12 19:48 -0600
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On 11/12/2016 3:20 PM, M Philbrook wrote:
> In article <o07naa$33e$2@dont-email.me>, Sophi.2@invalid.org says...
>>
>> On 11/12/2016 11:03 AM, M Philbrook wrote:
>>> In article <xn60nt2y7f.fsf@delorie.com>, dj@delorie.com says...
>>>>
>>>> John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> writes:
>>>>>>> 2 phase? Please educate me on this. I know that single phase and 3 phase
>>>>>>> are common, but I have never encountered 2 phase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> really?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  two leads 90 degree shift..
>>>>>
>>>>> How often have you encountered a mains supply with 90 degree phase
>>>>> shift, smart ass?
>>>>
>>>> Nikolas Tesla invented it long ago.  Just because it isn't used for
>>>> mains *now* doesn't mean he can't know what it is.
>>>>
>>>> Also, it's what stepper motors use, and we encounter those every day.
>>>>
>>>> Also, he didn't mention "mains" in that follow-up.
>>>>
>>>> Also, replying to pedantry with jackassery is lame.
>>>> (whereas the opposite is just plain fun ;-)
>>>
>>>  actually there is an old place near me that uses 2 phase power./
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>
>> Does the old place generate its own power? The power company does not
>> provide two phase power.
>
>  Yes, they have both a water generation plant and scott connection
> transformers from commercial 3 phase to fill in when they need it.
>
> Jamie
>

So it is not 2 phase, it is 3 phase with a lame connection.

Please explain how it is used without the fill-in. Two phase motors? 
Note that three phase is completely different from two phase. The phases 
are 120 degrees apart in 3 phase (with a common reference which requires 
3 wires) whereas 2 phase is 90 degrees apart (also requiring 3 wires), 
even according to you. Why would they use a Scott-T when 3 phase is 
already available. Pretty stupid -- just like you.

If you don't believe me, set up a simple LTSpice schematic and run it. 
It will teach you things you obviously do not know.

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Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2016-11-08 09:41 +0000
  Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? jrwalliker@gmail.com - 2016-11-08 06:10 -0800
    Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-08 06:29 -0800
      Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2016-11-08 11:55 -0500
        Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2016-11-08 11:56 -0500
  Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2016-11-08 11:58 -0500
    Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-08 11:05 -0600
      Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-08 12:48 -0500
      Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-08 10:46 -0800
      Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2016-11-08 17:22 -0500
        Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-11 20:22 -0600
        Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-11 20:26 -0600
          Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> - 2016-11-11 22:07 -0500
            Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2016-11-12 12:03 -0500
              Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-12 12:34 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2016-11-12 16:20 -0500
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? pedro <me@privacy.net> - 2016-11-13 09:32 +0800
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-12 19:52 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-11-13 05:11 +0000
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2016-11-13 13:07 -0500
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-13 16:44 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-13 18:13 -0500
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-12 19:48 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-12 20:56 -0500
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-12 20:10 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-11-13 04:57 +0000
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? upsidedown@downunder.com - 2016-11-13 11:07 +0200
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-13 09:57 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-13 18:14 -0500
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? upsidedown@downunder.com - 2016-11-14 21:19 +0200
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-14 19:54 -0500
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? upsidedown@downunder.com - 2016-11-15 09:55 +0200
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Glen Walpert <nospam@null.void> - 2016-11-15 17:55 +0000
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-14 17:39 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-14 19:55 -0500
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-14 17:46 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-14 19:56 -0500
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-15 17:00 -0600
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-15 19:20 -0500
              Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? upsidedown@downunder.com - 2016-11-12 20:53 +0200
              Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 10:50 -0800
                Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 10:58 -0800
            Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2016-11-12 12:31 -0600
  Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-08 12:46 -0500
    Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-08 10:40 -0800
      Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-08 19:13 -0500
  Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 10:50 -0800
  Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk> - 2016-11-09 14:06 +0000
  Re: Single or double pole mains switch in USA? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-11-12 07:05 +0000

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