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Re: Should we synchronize clocks

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Subject Re: Should we synchronize clocks
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Date 2025-09-23 10:54 +0000
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From Python <jp@python.invalid>

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Le 23/09/2025 à 09:59, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> Am Montag000022, 22.09.2025 um 22:09 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>> Den 22.09.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>> Am Sonntag000021, 21.09.2025 um 11:50 schrieb Python:
>>>> Le 21/09/2025 à 10:44, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> 'showing' is meant as reference to our use of the human organs 
>>>>> called 'eyes'.
>>>>>
>>>>> These organs detect signals from remote locations by means of light, 
>>>>> which travels from there to here (where we are as observers).
>>>>>
>>>>> This trip does in fact need some amount of time, hence we see remote 
>>>>> clocks with a little delay.
>>>>>
>>>>> This would mean:
>>>>>
>>>>> if we see t'=t than both clocks are out of synch.
>> 
>> Right.
>> That's why there are no visual observations
>> of remote clocks in Einstein's definition of simultaneity.
> 
> If so, then how could the observer in 'A' possibly know what clocks in 
> 'B' show?
> 
> There had to be some sort of communication or observation between A and 
> B, because otherwise the entire operation wouldn't make sense.
> 
> 
>> 
>> You have been told this a _lot_ of times by Python, me and others.
>> Why do you never learn?
>> 
>> quote from § 1. Definition of Simultaneity
>> -------------------------------------------
>> | "If at the point A of space there is a clock, an observer
>> |  at A can determine the time values of events in the immediate
>> |  proximity of A by finding the positions of the hands which
>> |  are simultaneous with these events.
>> |  If there is at the point B of space another clock in all
>> |  respects resembling the one at A, it is possible for an observer
>> |  at B to determine the time values of events in the immediate
>> |  neighbourhood of B."
>> 
>> An observer at A can determine the time value of the clock at A.
>> An observer at B can determine the time value of the clock at B.
>> Local observations only!
>> 
> 
> Sure, but how do you synchronize clocks with only local observations?
> 
>>>>
>>>> Exact. This is why Einstein's synchronization checking formula is NOT 
>>>> t'_A = t_B (this would mean what you spotted as wrong) but t'_A - t_B 
>>>> = t_B - t_A.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But this equation would be wrong, if A and B move.
>>>
>>> In this case the time for transit of the signal wouldn't be equal on 
>>> both ways (towards the remote station and back).
>> 
>> If the distance between the clocks changes with time,
>> then the clocks can't be synchronous.
> 
> Why?
> 
> I see no particular reason, why 'in synch' couldn't be defined for 
> moving clocks.
> 
>> The clocks in Einstein's definition of simultaneity
>> are stationary in the same frame of reference.
> 
> Well, OK, but that wouldn't solve the problem of synchronization.
> 
> To synch a remote clock to the own time, you would need to tell the 
> remote observer, to which time he had to turn the knobs of his clock.
> 
> So: how could that be done, if there is no communication?
> 
>>>
>>> To make this equation valid, Einstein had to restrict the field of 
>>> application to no-moving stations.
>>>
>>> So, let's be generous and assume, that he actually meant that 
>>> restriction and simply forgot to write it down.
>> 
>> He didn't forget to write it down. See quotation above.
>> 
>> "If at the point A of space there is a clock"
>> "If there is at the point B of space another clock"
>> 
>> In more modern nomenclature we will use "frame of reference"
>> in stead of "space".
> 
> 'frame of reference' means 'space plus a measure of time'.
> 
> So 'space' and 'frame of reference' are not meant to be synonymous.
> 
>>>
>>> So: now we have two stations (A and B), which do not move in respect 
>>> to each other.
>>>
>>> Now we still have two disconnected clocks in A and B and want to 
>>> synchronize them.
>> 
>> No, Einstein will not synchronise them, he will see if
>> they are synchronous.
> 
> How, if he can't observe the remote clock?

Which of these proposition are true?

- You don't read the posts you're answering to
- You are abysmally stupid
- You are utterly dishonest

Note that they are not mutually exclusive.

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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 20:14 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:54 +0000
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 19:53 +0000
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        Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:50 +0000
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-22 20:51 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 23:29 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:44 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-23 07:14 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:19 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 00:02 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:06 +0000
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              Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-23 10:04 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 10:54 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-24 07:47 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 08:32 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 08:32 +0200
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-02 08:36 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-04 13:15 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-05 10:46 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-30 09:45 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-01 10:26 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-02 09:42 +0200
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-04 09:03 +0200
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-03 20:12 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-03 23:07 +0200
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-03 22:13 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-04 07:42 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-04 09:21 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-04 19:52 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-04 13:19 -0700
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-04 23:13 +0200
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-04 22:39 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 08:03 +0200
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Dwight Ślusarski <sk@sriigd.pl> - 2025-10-05 11:06 +0000
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 15:14 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 19:25 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 16:11 +0000
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 17:52 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 18:05 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 19:21 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 20:47 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 07:00 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 07:15 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 12:14 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 10:35 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 12:50 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 10:54 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 14:37 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 12:47 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 14:58 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 21:22 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-06 21:24 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Mylowe Babineaux <auo@aeu.fr> - 2025-10-06 21:40 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-07 07:36 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-06 15:03 -0700
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-06 14:32 -0700
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 00:26 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 20:50 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 21:03 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-05 21:37 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-06 02:46 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-06 02:58 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-06 06:59 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-06 14:25 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-07 09:47 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-07 09:59 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-05 10:55 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-05 10:56 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-05 20:28 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-10-05 11:49 -0700
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-05 19:02 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-10-05 22:32 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Laureano Hofmeister <efe@estsrl.de> - 2025-10-03 22:55 +0000
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-05 10:47 +0200
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-10-07 11:35 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-07 13:03 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-07 15:32 +0200
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-10-07 15:18 +0000
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-10-08 13:58 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-10-08 12:02 +0000
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 21:36 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 19:43 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 23:06 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 23:04 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 07:00 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-25 06:56 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 09:52 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-25 20:16 +0000
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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Tibor Jaskolski <kso@ii.pl> - 2025-09-25 07:16 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 08:36 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 07:10 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-23 21:02 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-23 15:16 -0700
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-24 08:08 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-24 22:17 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 23:10 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 21:12 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 21:14 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-24 23:30 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-23 21:03 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-23 21:57 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:20 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 00:07 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:10 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 07:34 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:16 +0000
      Re: Should we synchronize clocks guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:44 +0200
        Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 13:03 +0200
          Re: Should we synchronize clocks guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:52 +0200
            Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 23:41 +0200
              Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 09:09 +0200
        Re: Should we synchronize clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-22 14:12 +0200
          Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 15:05 +0200
  Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-19 10:23 -0700
    Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-22 22:20 -0700
      Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 22:27 -0700
        Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-22 23:00 -0700

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