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Re: Should we synchronize clocks

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Should we synchronize clocks
Date 2025-09-23 10:04 +0200
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Am Montag000022, 22.09.2025 um 22:09 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
> Den 22.09.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Am Sonntag000021, 21.09.2025 um 11:50 schrieb Python:
>>> Le 21/09/2025 à 10:44, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> 'showing' is meant as reference to our use of the human organs 
>>>> called 'eyes'.
>>>>
>>>> These organs detect signals from remote locations by means of light, 
>>>> which travels from there to here (where we are as observers).
>>>>
>>>> This trip does in fact need some amount of time, hence we see remote 
>>>> clocks with a little delay.
>>>>
>>>> This would mean:
>>>>
>>>> if we see t'=t than both clocks are out of synch.
> 
> Right.
> That's why there are no visual observations
> of remote clocks in Einstein's definition of simultaneity.

If so, then how could the observer in 'A' possibly know what clocks in 
'B' show?

There had to be some sort of communication or observation between A and 
B, because otherwise the entire operation wouldn't make sense.


> 
> You have been told this a _lot_ of times by Python, me and others.
> Why do you never learn?
> 
> quote from § 1. Definition of Simultaneity
> -------------------------------------------
> | "If at the point A of space there is a clock, an observer
> |  at A can determine the time values of events in the immediate
> |  proximity of A by finding the positions of the hands which
> |  are simultaneous with these events.
> |  If there is at the point B of space another clock in all
> |  respects resembling the one at A, it is possible for an observer
> |  at B to determine the time values of events in the immediate
> |  neighbourhood of B."
> 
> An observer at A can determine the time value of the clock at A.
> An observer at B can determine the time value of the clock at B.
> Local observations only!
> 

Sure, but how do you synchronize clocks with only local observations?

>>>
>>> Exact. This is why Einstein's synchronization checking formula is NOT 
>>> t'_A = t_B (this would mean what you spotted as wrong) but t'_A - t_B 
>>> = t_B - t_A.
>>>
>>
>> But this equation would be wrong, if A and B move.
>>
>> In this case the time for transit of the signal wouldn't be equal on 
>> both ways (towards the remote station and back).
> 
> If the distance between the clocks changes with time,
> then the clocks can't be synchronous.

Why?

I see no particular reason, why 'in synch' couldn't be defined for 
moving clocks.

> The clocks in Einstein's definition of simultaneity
> are stationary in the same frame of reference.

Well, OK, but that wouldn't solve the problem of synchronization.

To synch a remote clock to the own time, you would need to tell the 
remote observer, to which time he had to turn the knobs of his clock.

So: how could that be done, if there is no communication?

>>
>> To make this equation valid, Einstein had to restrict the field of 
>> application to no-moving stations.
>>
>> So, let's be generous and assume, that he actually meant that 
>> restriction and simply forgot to write it down.
> 
> He didn't forget to write it down. See quotation above.
> 
> "If at the point A of space there is a clock"
> "If there is at the point B of space another clock"
> 
> In more modern nomenclature we will use "frame of reference"
> in stead of "space".

'frame of reference' means 'space plus a measure of time'.

So 'space' and 'frame of reference' are not meant to be synonymous.

>>
>> So: now we have two stations (A and B), which do not move in respect 
>> to each other.
>>
>> Now we still have two disconnected clocks in A and B and want to 
>> synchronize them.
> 
> No, Einstein will not synchronise them, he will see if
> they are synchronous.

How, if he can't observe the remote clock?


  ...


TH

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                Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-23 15:16 -0700
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-24 08:08 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-24 22:17 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 23:10 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 21:12 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-24 21:14 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-24 23:30 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-23 21:03 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-23 21:57 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:20 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 00:07 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:10 +0000
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-24 07:34 +0200
                Re: Should we synchronize clocks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:16 +0000
      Re: Should we synchronize clocks guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:44 +0200
        Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 13:03 +0200
          Re: Should we synchronize clocks guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:52 +0200
            Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 23:41 +0200
              Re: Should we synchronize clocks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 09:09 +0200
        Re: Should we synchronize clocks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-22 14:12 +0200
          Re: Should we synchronize clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-22 15:05 +0200
  Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-19 10:23 -0700
    Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-22 22:20 -0700
      Re: Should we synchronize clocks "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 22:27 -0700
        Re: Should we synchronize clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-22 23:00 -0700

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