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Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors)

From Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors)
Organization Southern Nevada Institute of Technology
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Date 2025-07-25 21:07 +0000
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On Jul 25, 2025 at 1:13:31 PM MST, "%" wrote
<UVidnTmhd772eB71nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:

> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jul 25, 2025 at 11:02:23 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <mehv5hFovapU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 25/07/2025 18:29, Brock McNuggets asked yet MORE questions!
>>> 
>>> Hi Brock,
>>> 
>>> Thanks again for engaging politely — I really do appreciate it. Let me
>>> try to clarify a few things:
>>> 
>>>       "What questions? Please be specific."
>>> 
>>> Certainly. The questions I asked John Daniel directly (via the contact
>>> details provided for EtreCheck support) were strictly technical and
>>> focused on:
>>> 
>>>       Clarification of what data EtreCheck collects and where it is
>>> stored or transmitted.
>>> 
>>>       The purpose and function of specific background processes launched
>>> by the app.
>>> 
>>>       The reasons for observed outbound connections made by EtreCheck
>>> when run in offline mode.
>>> 
>>>       Why EtreCheck triggered false positives in several independent
>>> malware and telemetry monitoring tools.
>> 
>> If these were a bunch of emails I can see where it is a bit much, but overall
>> those are not of concern.
>>> 
>>> None of those were answered — not even with a simple acknowledgment. I
>>> sent polite follow-ups and eventually asked via a public forum whether
>>> others had received support. At that point, John vanished from LinkedIn,
>>> and some of my posts disappeared from public view (as did others
>>> questioning similar things).
>>> 
>>>       "You have also repeatedly insinuated that it is malware..."
>>> 
>>> I do understand that concern. Let me be clear: I’ve never declared
>>> EtreCheck to be malware.
>> 
>> You have repeatedly insinuated.
>> 
>>> What I have said is that, given the opacity
>>> surrounding its operation and the developer's refusal to answer
>>> straightforward queries, it raises red flags. That’s a risk-based
>>> statement, not a claim of confirmed malicious intent. As someone with a
>>> long history of dealing with systems security, I view tools that evade
>>> transparency with extra caution.
>> 
>> What "long history of dealing with systems security"?
>>> 
>>>       "What makes you think you are entitled to know ANYTHING about his
>>> background or qualifications?"
>>> 
>>> Fair question. My answer: I’m not entitled to anything beyond what he
>>> voluntarily offers. But if someone wants to sell a product that alters
>>> or scans system-level components — especially on macOS — and markets
>>> that tool on the basis of authority or credibility, then it’s perfectly
>>> valid to ask: What qualifies this person to give diagnostics or
>>> remediation advice? If someone benefits commercially from trust, then
>>> transparency helps support that trust.
>> 
>> If you do not like the response simply do not use the product and, please, let
>> it go. The obsession you have here is unhealthy for you.
>>> 
>>>       "When you focus on him as a person... that makes it personal."
>>> 
>>> I get that distinction, and I accept that the line can blur. My aim has
>>> never been to dig into private matters or launch ad hominem attacks —
>>> far from it. I’ve raised questions only in relation to the product and
>>> the support structure around it.
>> 
>> No: you also asked about his personal life.
>> 
>>> If a person is presenting themselves as
>>> a software authority but declines to engage in support or basic identity
>>> verification, then yes — some personal accountability becomes relevant.
>> 
>> Not really... but if you need it and are not getting it then let it go and
>> just do not use the product.
>>> 
>>> As for Snit — again, let me reiterate — I consider him a friend. We
>>> disagree sometimes, as all friends do, but I’d never treat him as an
>>> enemy. I hope he knows that.
>> 
>> I do. And I hope you know I feel the same way.
>> 
>> 
> i hate snit and i'll tell you why

So do I.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 17:47 +0100
  Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 17:14 +0000
    Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 18:30 +0100
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-24 21:25 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 23:41 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-24 22:46 +0000
            Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 22:58 +0000
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 16:11 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 16:17 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E  xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E  xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:33 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 18:01 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:13 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 22:59 +0000
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-24 22:47 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 00:09 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:13 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-07-25 05:22 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 08:14 +0100
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:11 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 08:30 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 17:29 +0000
            Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 19:02 +0100
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 18:06 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 20:18 +0100
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:10 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 13:13 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:07 +0000
            Re: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions  Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) "Tegenaria" <TegenariaArach@incogni.net> - 2025-07-25 19:34 +0000
              Re: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:07 +0000
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions  Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-25 21:11 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:30 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) "Tegenaria" <TegenariaArach@incogni.net> - 2025-07-25 21:37 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 23:28 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-26 22:34 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 01:16 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-30 09:20 +0200
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-30 09:05 +0100
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-30 15:52 +0000
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:09 +0000

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