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Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors)

From Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors)
Organization Southern Nevada Institute of Technology
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Date 2025-07-25 18:06 +0000
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On Jul 25, 2025 at 11:02:23 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<mehv5hFovapU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 25/07/2025 18:29, Brock McNuggets asked yet MORE questions!
> 
> Hi Brock,
> 
> Thanks again for engaging politely — I really do appreciate it. Let me
> try to clarify a few things:
> 
>      "What questions? Please be specific."
> 
> Certainly. The questions I asked John Daniel directly (via the contact
> details provided for EtreCheck support) were strictly technical and
> focused on:
> 
>      Clarification of what data EtreCheck collects and where it is
> stored or transmitted.
> 
>      The purpose and function of specific background processes launched
> by the app.
> 
>      The reasons for observed outbound connections made by EtreCheck
> when run in offline mode.
> 
>      Why EtreCheck triggered false positives in several independent
> malware and telemetry monitoring tools.

If these were a bunch of emails I can see where it is a bit much, but overall
those are not of concern.
> 
> None of those were answered — not even with a simple acknowledgment. I
> sent polite follow-ups and eventually asked via a public forum whether
> others had received support. At that point, John vanished from LinkedIn,
> and some of my posts disappeared from public view (as did others
> questioning similar things).
> 
>      "You have also repeatedly insinuated that it is malware..."
> 
> I do understand that concern. Let me be clear: I’ve never declared
> EtreCheck to be malware.

You have repeatedly insinuated.

> What I have said is that, given the opacity
> surrounding its operation and the developer's refusal to answer
> straightforward queries, it raises red flags. That’s a risk-based
> statement, not a claim of confirmed malicious intent. As someone with a
> long history of dealing with systems security, I view tools that evade
> transparency with extra caution.

What "long history of dealing with systems security"?
> 
>      "What makes you think you are entitled to know ANYTHING about his
> background or qualifications?"
> 
> Fair question. My answer: I’m not entitled to anything beyond what he
> voluntarily offers. But if someone wants to sell a product that alters
> or scans system-level components — especially on macOS — and markets
> that tool on the basis of authority or credibility, then it’s perfectly
> valid to ask: What qualifies this person to give diagnostics or
> remediation advice? If someone benefits commercially from trust, then
> transparency helps support that trust.

If you do not like the response simply do not use the product and, please, let
it go. The obsession you have here is unhealthy for you.
> 
>      "When you focus on him as a person... that makes it personal."
> 
> I get that distinction, and I accept that the line can blur. My aim has
> never been to dig into private matters or launch ad hominem attacks —
> far from it. I’ve raised questions only in relation to the product and
> the support structure around it.

No: you also asked about his personal life.

> If a person is presenting themselves as
> a software authority but declines to engage in support or basic identity
> verification, then yes — some personal accountability becomes relevant.

Not really... but if you need it and are not getting it then let it go and
just do not use the product.
> 
> As for Snit — again, let me reiterate — I consider him a friend. We
> disagree sometimes, as all friends do, but I’d never treat him as an
> enemy. I hope he knows that.

I do. And I hope you know I feel the same way.


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 17:47 +0100
  Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 17:14 +0000
    Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 18:30 +0100
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-24 21:25 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 23:41 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-24 22:46 +0000
            Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 22:58 +0000
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 16:11 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 16:17 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E  xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E  xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:33 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 18:01 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:13 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 22:59 +0000
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-24 22:47 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 00:09 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:13 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-07-25 05:22 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 08:14 +0100
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:11 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 08:30 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 17:29 +0000
            Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 19:02 +0100
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 18:06 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 20:18 +0100
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:10 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 13:13 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:07 +0000
            Re: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions  Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) "Tegenaria" <TegenariaArach@incogni.net> - 2025-07-25 19:34 +0000
              Re: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:07 +0000
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions  Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-25 21:11 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:30 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) "Tegenaria" <TegenariaArach@incogni.net> - 2025-07-25 21:37 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 23:28 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-26 22:34 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 01:16 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-30 09:20 +0200
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-30 09:05 +0100
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-30 15:52 +0000
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:09 +0000

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