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Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors

From "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors
Date 2025-07-25 19:02 +0100
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On 25/07/2025 18:29, Brock McNuggets asked yet MORE questions!

Hi Brock,

Thanks again for engaging politely — I really do appreciate it. Let me 
try to clarify a few things:

     "What questions? Please be specific."

Certainly. The questions I asked John Daniel directly (via the contact 
details provided for EtreCheck support) were strictly technical and 
focused on:

     Clarification of what data EtreCheck collects and where it is 
stored or transmitted.

     The purpose and function of specific background processes launched 
by the app.

     The reasons for observed outbound connections made by EtreCheck 
when run in offline mode.

     Why EtreCheck triggered false positives in several independent 
malware and telemetry monitoring tools.

None of those were answered — not even with a simple acknowledgment. I 
sent polite follow-ups and eventually asked via a public forum whether 
others had received support. At that point, John vanished from LinkedIn, 
and some of my posts disappeared from public view (as did others 
questioning similar things).

     "You have also repeatedly insinuated that it is malware..."

I do understand that concern. Let me be clear: I’ve never declared 
EtreCheck to be malware. What I have said is that, given the opacity 
surrounding its operation and the developer's refusal to answer 
straightforward queries, it raises red flags. That’s a risk-based 
statement, not a claim of confirmed malicious intent. As someone with a 
long history of dealing with systems security, I view tools that evade 
transparency with extra caution.

     "What makes you think you are entitled to know ANYTHING about his 
background or qualifications?"

Fair question. My answer: I’m not entitled to anything beyond what he 
voluntarily offers. But if someone wants to sell a product that alters 
or scans system-level components — especially on macOS — and markets 
that tool on the basis of authority or credibility, then it’s perfectly 
valid to ask: What qualifies this person to give diagnostics or 
remediation advice? If someone benefits commercially from trust, then 
transparency helps support that trust.

     "When you focus on him as a person... that makes it personal."

I get that distinction, and I accept that the line can blur. My aim has 
never been to dig into private matters or launch ad hominem attacks — 
far from it. I’ve raised questions only in relation to the product and 
the support structure around it. If a person is presenting themselves as 
a software authority but declines to engage in support or basic identity 
verification, then yes — some personal accountability becomes relevant.

As for Snit — again, let me reiterate — I consider him a friend. We 
disagree sometimes, as all friends do, but I’d never treat him as an 
enemy. I hope he knows that.

-- 
All the best,
David B.

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Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 17:47 +0100
  Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 17:14 +0000
    Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 18:30 +0100
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-24 21:25 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-24 23:41 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-24 22:46 +0000
            Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 22:58 +0000
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 16:11 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 16:17 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E  xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E  xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:33 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 18:01 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:13 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 22:59 +0000
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-07-24 22:47 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 00:09 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:13 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-07-25 05:22 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 08:14 +0100
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 23:11 +0000
        Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 08:30 +0100
          Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 17:29 +0000
            Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 19:02 +0100
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 18:06 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-25 20:18 +0100
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:10 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 13:13 -0700
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My E xperience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:07 +0000
            Re: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions  Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) "Tegenaria" <TegenariaArach@incogni.net> - 2025-07-25 19:34 +0000
              Re: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:07 +0000
              Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions  Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-25 21:11 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:30 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) "Tegenaria" <TegenariaArach@incogni.net> - 2025-07-25 21:37 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 23:28 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-26 22:34 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 01:16 +0000
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-07-30 09:20 +0200
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-07-30 09:05 +0100
                Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors (was: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My  Experience on MacRumors) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-07-30 15:52 +0000
      Re: Asking Questions Isn’t a Crime – My Experience on MacRumors Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 21:09 +0000

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