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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net> <67bf20f9$9$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <m28mc2F2vqjU4@mid.individual.net> <s7-dne8w24CmuiL6nZ2dnZfqn_oAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| Date | 2025-02-26 16:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67bf45bb$7$2754$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On Feb 26, 2025 at 7:37:43 AM MST, "%" wrote <s7-dne8w24CmuiL6nZ2dnZfqn_oAAAAA@giganews.com>: > David wrote: >> On 26/02/2025 14:11, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 5:34:57 AM MST, "David" wrote >>> <m28g3hF27d7U1@mid.individual.net>: >>> >>>> On 17/02/2025 00:18, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 4:58:55 PM MST, "David" wrote >>>>> <m1fcdvF87jmU5@mid.individual.net>: >>>>> >>>>>> On 16/02/2025 23:52, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 4:45:54 PM MST, "David" wrote >>>>>>> <m1fbliF87jnU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems unlikely you did. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may well have opened an email attachment (SPAM) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to be clear, not only opened the email but saved the >>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment and then >>>>>>>>>>>>> opened it? If so the malware app should have found that copy. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I confess that I do do that sometimes! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fair enough... but had you the malware app should have caught >>>>>>>>>>> that you did. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I STILL do not have a great deal of faith in ClamXAV. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is dependent on the Clam engine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the most part, yes ...... but Mark Allan can manipulate the >>>>>>>> software. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From what I understand he has a wrapper around the Clam engine. >>>>>>> He does not >>>>>>> modify the engine. >>>>>> >>>>>> He does! Write and ask him - PLEASE! >>>>> >>>>> Not going to contact him, but I did ask ChatGPT: >>>> >>>> I ask only because he will no correspond with me! >>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> The author of ClamXAV, ClamXAV Software, doesn’t typically alter the >>>>> underlying ClamAV engine itself but customizes the way it interacts >>>>> with macOS >>>>> to provide an easy-to-use interface and better integration with the >>>>> system. >>>>> ClamXAV leverages ClamAV for virus detection and scanning but wraps >>>>> it in a >>>>> macOS-friendly UI, often adding additional features like automatic >>>>> updates, >>>>> scheduled scans, and integration with system security mechanisms. >>>>> >>>>> However, ClamXAV is based on ClamAV’s open-source engine, so while >>>>> it might >>>>> optimize or configure it to work better with macOS, the core ClamAV >>>>> scanning >>>>> engine remains largely unchanged. >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> I asked what might change... and got this: >>>>> ----- >>>>> When I say “largely unchanged,” I mean that the core functionality and >>>>> scanning engine of ClamAV remain intact, but there could be some >>>>> customization >>>>> in how the engine operates within ClamXAV. Specifically, the author or >>>>> ClamXAV’s developers might make adjustments in the following areas: >>>>> 1. Integration with macOS: The user interface (UI) and >>>>> experience are >>>>> tailored to work seamlessly with macOS, so they might modify how ClamAV >>>>> interacts with macOS-specific features like the file system, >>>>> permissions, or >>>>> notification system. >>>>> 2. Performance Tweaks: To improve efficiency or resource >>>>> usage on macOS, >>>>> ClamXAV might apply certain optimizations or adjust default settings >>>>> like >>>>> memory usage, scan speeds, or scanning depth. >>>>> 3. Customization of Signature Updates: ClamXAV likely >>>>> handles the >>>>> signature database differently, such as automating updates or >>>>> setting custom >>>>> preferences for when and how updates are fetched, which could differ >>>>> from >>>>> ClamAV’s default method. >>>>> 4. Reporting and Logging: The way ClamXAV displays scan >>>>> results, handles >>>>> alerts, or logs information might be modified for a smoother macOS >>>>> experience. >>>>> This could include changing the format or type of reports or >>>>> providing more >>>>> user-friendly options for viewing scan results. >>>>> 5. UI Customization: While ClamAV is a command-line tool, >>>>> ClamXAV >>>>> provides a graphical interface. The author might tweak how scans are >>>>> initiated, how progress is displayed, and how the user can interact >>>>> with the >>>>> program. >>>>> >>>>> In general, these are optimizations or alterations aimed at improving >>>>> usability on macOS rather than changing ClamAV’s core detection and >>>>> scanning >>>>> functionality. >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> That fits my prior understanding. >>>> >>>> OK. I don' dispute any of that. >>> >>> Good! >> >> Ha! >> >>>>>>>>>>> True... but I do not engage in very risky behavior. I do use >>>>>>>>>>> software outside >>>>>>>>>>> of the App Store but mostly well respected software. I do not >>>>>>>>>>> use pirated >>>>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is your email stored on a server? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, of course. Why do you ask? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> With the malware being quarantined I suppose it is a nonissue. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is /not/ quarantined - it has been erased!!! 🙂 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Your image says it was quarantined (which is not the same as >>>>>>>>>>> erased). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It WAS (supposedly) quarantined ..... BEFORE I erased my hard >>>>>>>>>> drive! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK. Any reason to think it was not? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Response from the ASC forum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> THIS! >>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/Q7Chrdqh/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-18-35-01.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That does not answer the question. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you disagree with the person who wrote that message? >>>>> >>>>> I do not think it is so black and white. Depends on your usage and >>>>> desire. >>>> >>>> Folk 'advising' on the ASC forums invariably tell naive users to remove >>>> anti-malware software from their Apple computer(s). >>> >>> Makes sense. Naive users risk doing more harm than good. >> >> *MOST* users of Apple computers are somewhat naive about how computers >> actually work! >> >>>>>>>>>> *Keep up, dear boy*! ;-) (in fun!) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So quarantined and then erased. Fair enough. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <thumb> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But if you did a backup and then brought your data back you >>>>>>>>> brought it back. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know how one can get around that problem :-( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stop fearing it. Stop worrying. There is no 100% guarantee that >>>>>>> Apple and >>>>>>> third party apps will catch everything, but it is just not worth >>>>>>> focusing so >>>>>>> much time on. It is possible the NSA has targeted you and has >>>>>>> cameras hidden >>>>>>> in your home, but the chances are miniscule. Not worth looking in >>>>>>> your vents >>>>>>> for cameras. Same with malware. Enjoy other things. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's my hobby! 🙂 I'm not afraid or fearful - I just don't like >>>>>> "bad guys"! >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy your hobby. >>>> >>>> Haha! 🙂 I surely do! >>> >>> Again: good! >> >> It's good having you as a pal on-line! :-D >> >>>>> I am getting ready to make some cookies... though might not do it >>>>> tonight. We >>>>> shall see. Made the dough already. >>>> >>>> I am impressed with your culinary skills! :-) >>> >>> I did make them. Now they are eaten and gone. >> >> Wonderful! 🙂 >> > you have a major problem I went to websites to get more cookies. -- Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.
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