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On Feb 21, 2025 at 10:27:05 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB28E49762269HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
> news:67b2cc34$10$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Mon, 17 Feb 2025
> 05:42:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 9:41:35 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>> <XnsB288F104E328CHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>> 
>>> I'd love to have a
>>> reasonable adult conversation concerning malware and the specific
>>> versions that exist as well as how they can enter a system without you
>>> having to personally run them.
>> 
>> Versions that exist? Do you mean classifications? What do you think I
>> know that you do not? You claim to be an expert in the field. LOL!
> 
> versions, yes, Snit. I didn't use the wrong word here. I realize you think
> I did, but, I didn't. I don't think you actually know much at all about
> the malware scene. I think you'd have to use google a lot.
> 
> I claim to be an expert? :) LOL, No, Snit. I *am* an expert in Malware.
> From writing them (actual self replicating code, btw. Trojans are more
> your and Tims programming skillset; if that) to developing an antimalware
> utility (BugHunter) that got me cold recruited to go work for Malwarebytes;
> as an "Expert" Malware researcher. I disassembled 0day binaries for a
> living, dumbshit. As you've already seen, ChatGPT even knows it's one
> subject I am very knowledgeable in. Computer shops around here don't have
> a Gremlin fucked your gear up discount. It's a small community; I get
> contract jobs from them for dealing with special cases, due to my
> extensive knowledge of the hardware and software. My data recovery skills
> aren't to shabby either.
> 
> BugHunter was good enough to be included on a lot of techie tooldisc
> images, too. Even best buys geeksquad discs had my program on them. So did
> BartPE and Hirens boot disc. The last two can be confirmed via a google
> search. it's also quite possible to find an older geeksquad ISO that has
> BugHunter on it.
> 
> Still LOLing, dumbass? :)
> 
>>> If you're up for such a conversation, that is. You seem
>>> to have the misguided notion that you would school me in this. I'd love
>>> the opportunity to find out for myself.
>> 
>> Huh? I noted a few VERY basic things. As have you.
> 
> Oh, I can easily go well beyond basic, if you're interested. Would you
> like to discuss poly morphic tech or oglimorphic tech? Do you even know
> what those terms mean? Do you know what's involved in infecting a boot
> sector and ensuring your code gets ran when the machine is mistakenly
> booted from an infected disc? Do you know how a boot sector virus can also
> be an exe/com or both file infector and still be able to infect a boot
> sector on a floppy or hard drive? Do you have any idea how code can be
> modified on a bootable ISO to include your gift as well? So when the user
> burns that iso and boots it, I 0wn his rig. It happens just like that.
> 
> Stop trying to talk down to me, dude. FFS, You couldn't even determine
> that you had a failing hard drive on gear you own! What kind of tech can't
> figure that out? Oh, I bet it killed your soul to read those results when
> you booted MX and it confirmed! *MY* diagnosis. I imagine your
> bloodpressure sky rocketed. :)
> 
> 
>> What the hell is wrong with you
> 
> Nothing is wrong with me. I just don't have the patience for your
> consistent bullshit. I'm not here often enough to keep up with your
> bullshit. I haven't gone around making completely bullshit threads trying
> to insult you, either. But you sure pulled that shit with me. You've been
> pulling that shit nearly the whole time you've been here. It's your MO
> infact. You are actually known for singling out highly tech savvy people
> in newsgroups you visit. If you can't be seen as a peer (because you
> aren't. rofl!) you try to ride them. You try to make labels for them, then
> deny the label came from you. (fucking lame, Snit. Stand by what you write,
> even if it is bullshit! Coward)
> FFS, you have script kiddie mentality and skills. Oh, google search engine
> seeding; how fucking lame dude.
> 
> Btw, the doxing you got, you do realize people can fact check the contents
> for themselves? If they do, they'd discover it wasn't 'utterly incompetent'
> those people do know you; they're related to you. And depending on who you
> call and talk too, holy shit the things I've heard about you. The behavior
> of yours that we've all seen on usenet pales by comparison to how much of
> a nutjob you are in real life.
> 
> 
>> and why is your ego ALWAYS front and center?
> 
> This! is one example of what I mean by your consistent bullshit, Snit. I
> haven't written a damn thing that has anything to do with an Ego. That's
> your latest excuse. Read the room, fucktard. You aren't making any sales.


Once again, you’ve decided to showcase your mix of arrogance and
misinformation. Let’s break this down for the sake of clarity, as I’m sure
others will appreciate a dose of truth.

1. “Versions that exist? Do you mean classifications?”
No, you didn’t use the wrong word. But what you’ve claimed to be “versions” of
malware is simply incorrect terminology. Malware can be classified in various
categories (e.g., viruses, worms, trojans, spyware), but “versions” isn’t the
right term unless you’re talking about a specific iteration or variant of a
malware strain. So, yes, it seems you don’t know what you’re talking about.

2. “I claim to be an expert? :) LOL, No, Snit. I am an expert in Malware.”
The only thing you’re an “expert” in is puffing yourself up. You claim to have
written self-replicating code and developed an antimalware tool, but you fail
to provide any verifiable proof of either. Disassembling 0day binaries for a
living? That’s a bold claim, and one I’m sure your “small community” will take
with a grain of salt. But even if that were true, it doesn’t make you an
expert—it just means you’ve worked on certain aspects of malware. Your
understanding of the subject still seems juvenile when it comes to core
concepts and applications.

3. “BugHunter was good enough to be included on a lot of techie tool disc
images, too. Even Best Buy’s GeekSquad discs had my program on them.”
Again, no citations. No verifiable sources. I’m not doubting you could’ve made
a tool that’s been included in some boot discs, but there’s no proof here. And
even if it were true, that doesn’t automatically elevate your credibility.
Being included on a disc is no guarantee of quality. A quick Google search, as
you love to suggest, reveals nothing substantial linking you to this so-called
“BugHunter.”

4. “You couldn’t even determine that you had a failing hard drive on gear you
own!”
Oh, so now you’re calling out my diagnostic skills based on a single,
out-of-context incident? How typical. For someone who claims to be an expert,
you should know that diagnostics can involve nuanced factors, and hard drives
aren’t always obvious. But since you’re so into technical details, let’s just
call it like it is: every techie has missed a diagnosis at some point. I’m
sure you have too—probably a few times more than I care to count.

5. “Do you even know what those terms mean?” (polymorphic, oglimorphic)
Ah, you’re really flexing now, huh? Yes, I know what polymorphic and
obfuscation techniques like oglimorphic mean. It’s cute that you think you’re
impressing anyone with those buzzwords. But just like any buzzword, knowing
the term doesn’t necessarily make you an expert. It’s about how you apply that
knowledge in real-world situations.

6. “Boot sector virus and ISO modification”
This is another instance where you’re rambling on about concepts like you’re
the first person to discover them. Boot sector viruses? Basic stuff. ISO
modification? Not as impressive as you seem to think. It’s common knowledge
among those who have worked with these techniques.

7. “Your blood pressure skyrocketed when you realized I was right about your
failing hard drive.”
Nice try, but no, my blood pressure didn’t skyrocket. In fact, I was more
amused than anything else. Your assumption that I care about your petty little
victory here is laughable. You’re not “right” in any meaningful way, and your
attempt to rub it in shows how desperate you are for validation.

8. “You are actually known for singling out highly tech-savvy people”
This is an outright lie. You’ve built a narrative in your mind where I’m the
villain because it suits your fragile ego. Anyone who’s read our interactions
knows the truth: You’re the one who regularly initiates conflict with others.
Perhaps the issue isn’t everyone else—it’s you.

9. “The doxing you got, you do realize people can fact check the contents for
themselves?”
Ah, yes, the infamous doxxing. I’m sure you’ve convinced yourself that your
“facts” are irrefutable, but the truth is far murkier. The contents of those
supposed “facts” can be easily disproven, and your “sources” are nothing more
than your twisted interpretations.

10. “You have script kiddie mentality and skills.”
This is the most amusing of all your insults. Calling me a “script kiddie” is
rich coming from someone who can’t seem to distinguish basic terminology or
offer verifiable proof of your so-called “expertise.” Keep laughing, Gremlin,
because your statements are nothing but hollow noise.

In conclusion, you’re not an expert. You’re not a professional. You’re just a
guy with a lot of noise and no substance. It’s embarrassing, really. If you
want to be taken seriously, maybe try backing up your claims with something
more than just bravado and empty insults.



-- 
Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.

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      Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 11:41 +0100
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