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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net> <votfrv$o33u$1@dont-email.me> <m1f11lF6rs0U1@mid.individual.net> <XnsB288CFDD9F0C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5> |
| Date | 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67b294b9$4$2786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On Feb 16, 2025 at 6:26:02 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB288CFDD9F0C2HT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>: > David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1f11lF6rs0U1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb > 2025 20:44:36 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: > >> On 16/02/2025 19:55, FromTheRafters wrote: > > [snip] > >>>> *Can trojans hide from antivirus*? >>> >>> Of course, AV's are always playing catch-up to malware purveyors. There >>> has to be a bad thing, for there to be a thing to detect such bad >>> thing. >> >> I wanted my friends here to be absolutely sure about that! > > What friends? :) And if they didn't already know that, they probably > shouldn't be using a computer with a seriously non restricted account. It > should be locked down quite a bit for their safety. > >>>> //The Warezov mail worm used this technique and caused serious issues >>>> to users. Rootkit technologies – that are generally employed by >>>> Trojans – can intercept and substitute system functions to make the >>>> infected file invisible to the operating system and antivirus >>>> programs.// >>> >>> What does this have to do with what was reported? >> >> It was simply an example of a Trojan that DID cause harm. Nothing more. > > No, it wasn't. A worm isn't a trojan. Trojans do not self replicate. Worms > and viruses do. You compared an Apple to an Orange here, David. Oh, give it a rest, Gremlin. You’re so desperate to play “Gotcha!” that you’ve completely missed the point—again. David was making a general point about malware evasion techniques, but instead of engaging in a meaningful discussion, you’re nitpicking over terminology like some self-important gatekeeper of IT trivia. Yes, a worm and a Trojan are distinct classifications. Congratulations, you’ve grasped Malware 101. Should we throw you a party? The irony is that while you smugly correct David, you completely gloss over the actual issue: malware—regardless of classification—can evade detection, and users should be aware of that. But sure, keep fixating on whether one particular example fits your pedantic little definitions instead of discussing anything of substance. It’s about as useful as arguing whether a square is a rectangle while your house is on fire. So, unless you actually have something worthwhile to add to the discussion, maybe sit this one out. -- Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.
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So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 10:25 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 06:34 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 13:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:46 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 10:37 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 17:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 14:55 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:44 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 20:46 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:55 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:07 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:16 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:17 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 22:08 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:34 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:54 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:21 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:22 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:53 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 15:33 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 17:17 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 18:00 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 18:17 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 18:22 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 18:59 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:19 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 19:36 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:52 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:49 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 20:56 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:20 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:23 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:52 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:58 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:18 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 12:34 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 14:11 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:21 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 07:37 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:47 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:11 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:44 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-02-17 00:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:48 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:25 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:43 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 14:57 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:51 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:13 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:19 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:25 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-02-16 16:19 -0600
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:49 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-02-17 15:58 -0600
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 22:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:08 -0800
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-02-19 23:10 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-19 23:29 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:50 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:36 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 15:42 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-23 00:03 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 02:22 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:52 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 14:16 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 22:33 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 23:19 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:39 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 23:30 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:11 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:18 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:25 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:58 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 18:51 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 01:55 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 19:01 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 02:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:38 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 23:08 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:46 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:43 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-17 15:07 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:21 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:54 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 08:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 10:28 +0100
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-03-04 10:11 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 04:52 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 12:46 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 08:04 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 13:57 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:01 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:47 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:49 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 15:24 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 15:05 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:08 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000
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