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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net> <m1et1uF5v3qU1@mid.individual.net> <67b241fc$4$1784$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <m1f1b4F6rs0U2@mid.individual.net> |
| Date | 2025-02-16 20:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67b25101$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On Feb 16, 2025 at 1:49:40 PM MST, "David" wrote <m1f1b4F6rs0U2@mid.individual.net>: > On 16/02/2025 19:52, Brock McNuggets wrote: >> On Feb 16, 2025 at 12:36:30 PM MST, "David" wrote >> <m1et1uF5v3qU1@mid.individual.net>: >> >>> On 16/02/2025 19:19, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 11:59:37 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>> <m1eqspF5v3rU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>> >>>>> On 16/02/2025 18:22, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 11:17:11 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>>>> <m1eod8F5hkeU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 18:00, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 10:17:56 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>>>>>> <m1eku4F4vrhU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16/02/2025 15:33, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 3:25:12 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>>>>>>>> <m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Didn't that come from an email? And it was quarantined. Not sure what good >>>>>>>>>> erasing the hard drive will do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regardless of where it came from, ClamXAV reported it as malware. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sure. From what I can tell, sitting harmlessly in an email until it was >>>>>>>> quarantined. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole point of a Trojan is that they *DON'T* "sit harmlessly!"' >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you ever run the app? >>>>> >>>>> I've no idea! >>>> >>>> Seems unlikely you did. >>> >>> I may well have opened an email attachment (SPAM) >> >> Just to be clear, not only opened the email but saved the attachment and then >> opened it? If so the malware app should have found that copy. > > I confess that I do do that sometimes! Fair enough... but had you the malware app should have caught that you did. > >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> someone was/is using an Apple computer WITHOUT such an anti-malware >>>>>>>>> software running, they'd nver know that a Trojan had been installed on >>>>>>>>> their computer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What makes you think it was installed? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's what Trojans *DO*! >>>>>> >>>>>> They do not install themselves... just as in the lore for the Trojan Horse. >>>>>> They use social engineering to get the user to install them. >>>>> >>>>> Are you SURE about this? >>>> >>>> Yes. Though other forms of malware might. >>> >>> Did you not read the McAffee link I sent you? >> >> I did. > > Good man! > >>>>>>>>> *Understanding Trojan Viruses and How to Get Rid of Them* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> //Basic online scenario—You log onto your computer and notice that >>>>>>>>> something’s just not right, but you can’t quite put your finger on it. >>>>>>>>> Something just seems…a bit off. If you’ve found yourself in this >>>>>>>>> situation, or even thinking you are, there’s a real possibility you >>>>>>>>> could have a Trojan virus on your computer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you have that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I have had! (Not now though, on my clean machine!) >>>>>> >>>>>> What was happening? >>>>> >>>>> Unexpected things occurring and sometime slow. >>>> >>>> What type unexpected things? >>> >>> Items disappearing? >> >> Weird. > > Indeed. I have noticed all manner of things over the years! > >>>>>>>>> Trojan viruses can not only steal your most personal information, they >>>>>>>>> also put you at risk for identity theft and other serious cybercrimes. >>>>>>>>> In this post, we’ll examine what Trojan viruses are, and where they come >>>>>>>>> from. We’ll also cover how you can protect yourself and get rid of >>>>>>>>> viruses so you can stay safe and maintain peace of mind online.// >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.mcafee.com/learn/understanding-trojan-viruses-and-how-to-get-rid-of-them/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> NOTE >>>>>>>>> **** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Erasing one's hard drive SHOULD remove the Trojan! ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It will... as will the anti-malware software. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You don't *USE* anti-malware software!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Your image showed otherwise: >>>>> >>>>> YOU ARE CONFUSED AGAIN! >>>>> >>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>> >>>>> <snip> >>>> >>>> How am I confused? Your image shows running of an anti-malware app. >>> >>> You need to re-read your post. >> >> Oh, I see. You are correct *I* rarely use anti-malware software (though to say >> I don't at all is not quite correct). But why change the topic to my system. I >> am not concerned about mine. > > Even though you use Apple devices, you still need to exercise care if > you use the Internet. True... but I do not engage in very risky behavior. I do use software outside of the App Store but mostly well respected software. I do not use pirated stuff. > >>>> Is your email stored on a server? >>> >>> Yes, of course. Why do you ask? >> >> With the malware being quarantined I suppose it is a nonissue. > > It is /not/ quarantined - it has been erased!!! 🙂 Your image says it was quarantined (which is not the same as erased). -- Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:19 +0000
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:49 +0000
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:20 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:23 +0000
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 07:37 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:47 +0000
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:50 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:36 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 15:42 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-23 00:03 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 02:22 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:52 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 14:16 +0000
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 23:19 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:39 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 23:30 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:11 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:18 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:25 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:58 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 18:51 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 01:55 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 19:01 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 02:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:38 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 23:08 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:46 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:54 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 08:45 +0000
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 08:04 -0500
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Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:47 -0500
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