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Mahipal wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Mahipal wrote:
>> > Regardless of Newton, your equation above is not due to Einstein.
>> Yes, it *is* (due to [*because of*] Einstein).  From “Ist die Trägheit
>> eines Körpers von seinem Energieinhalt abhängig?“ (1905; “Does the
>> inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?”):
>
> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Italian+E%3Dmcc follow your links.
>
> As I understand SW technologies, Google can personalize the search
> results you might be allowed to read (i.e. Chinese Google, ...).

Probably you mean

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olinto_De_Pretto>

(If yes, why did you not refer to it?)

There are *claims* that De Pretto, “an Italian industrialist and geologist”
(not: physicist), has written the equation first.  Cite evidence.

> I grew up being force-fed Einsteins's famous equation. Then I actually
> grew up and a few true teachers, like hanson here on Usenet, showed me
> to see the actual light.

ROTFL.  What do you dream of at night?

>> [translation:] “[…]
>> From this equation it directly follows that:—
>>   If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
>> diminishes by L/c². […]”
>>
>> That uses the then-adopted standard of “c“ as symbol for the speed of
>> light.
>
> I am not obsessed with any of the symbols used.

The point of my argument is not the symbols, but the idea.  Einstein
provably had it first *without* assuming an aether.  Learn to read.

> I read/write cursive.

You write nonsense.

>> […] In fact, Einstein assumed quanticized *light*, an idea that Planck
>> was *opposed to* at the time.
>
> What is this quanticized word mean? Typo?

Yes, it is “quantized” instead.

> Btw... To me see, ℎ is Planck's constant. Period. Fighting himself is
> heroic.

You are talking nonsense.  Of course ℎ is Planck’s constant; he used it in
his equations.  But Planck did *not* start quantum *mechanics*; Einstein
did, using Planck’s idea of quanta, but *different* from Planck, he used it
for *light*.

> [energy–momentum relation]
> If there isn't a differential in the equation, then... Yawn yawn YAWN.

There does not have to be a differential in *this* equation.

Go read
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy%E2%80%93momentum_relation#Norm_of_the_four-momentum>
p.

>> >> […] The original definition of the kilogram was 1 cubic meter of
>> >> water is equal to 1 kg, at room temperature at standard atmospheric
>> >> pressure.
>> It was (and is) effectively one litre (1 cubic _decimetre_) of water, the
>> specified temperature was lower (ca. 4 °C, not ca. 20 °C), and there was
>> no statement as to the pressure (so “standard atmospheric pressure” is
>> implied only).  Everything else is correct ;-)
>
> I'm too mature to deal with emoticons.

You should say instead that you have lost your sense of humor.  Which is
_not_ a sign of maturity.

> [drivel]

Get a life.

-- 
PointedEars

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                Re: What is mass? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-26 16:17 +0200
          a-hem; m = F/a is also gOOd noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 17:16 -0700
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              top-posting is frpowned upon by certain advertizers ... just don't ask them, why not noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 15:53 -0700
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                a.k.a photonics -- thanks for the tip (pi dollars is gOOd noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:28 -0700
                Re: a.k.a photonics -- thanks for the tip (pi dollars is gOOd Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-29 21:01 +0200
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