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Mahipal wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 10:22:32 AM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> Lahn wrote:

It’s attribution *line*; _not_ attribution novel.

>> Mahipal wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 9:11:05 AM UTC-4, Thomas
>> > 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> >> Mahipal wrote:
>> >> > [...] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> >> >> Mahipal wrote:
>> >> >> > Regardless of Newton, your equation above is not due to Einstein.
>> >> >> Yes, it *is* (due to [*because of*] Einstein).  From "Ist die
>> >> >> Trägheit eines Körpers von seinem Energieinhalt abhängig?" (1905;
>> >> >> "Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?"):
>> >> >
>> >> > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Italian+E%3Dmcc follow your
>> >> > links.
>> >> >
>> >> > As I understand SW technologies, Google can personalize the search
>> >> > results you might be allowed to read (i.e. Chinese Google, ...).
>> >> 
>> >> Probably you mean
>> >> 
>> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olinto_De_Pretto>
>> >> 
>> >> (If yes, why did you not refer to it?)
>> > It's right there in the search results. More than just Wiki.
>> It does not work this way.
> 
> It's not my search engine, you're welcome to use any other.
> We the humans write all over the WWW, Google indexes us all.

You misunderstand.  I mean that a constructive discussion does not work this 
way.  For in a constructive discussion, one does not make a claim, gives 
keywords for a Web search, and waits for others to find the evidence; 
instead, one *directly* references the evidence that backs up one’s 
position.  Failure to produce direct evidence for one’s position is 
indicative of an empty claim, often of mere belief, wishful thinking and 
hearsay.

For example, I have referred (you) to a particular Wikipedia article, 
because there you can find evidence (with references – you are making the 
common mistake of discounting Wikipedia too quickly; it does have a 
*scientific*, encyclopaedic approach) that De Pretto did not write “E = 
mc²”.

You would be well-advised to subscribe to <news:sci.physics.relativity> 
where we have discussed these issues numerous times.
  
>> >> > [energy-momentum relation]
>> >> > If there isn't a differential in the equation, then... Yawn yawn
>> >> > YAWN.
>> >> There does not have to be a differential in *this* equation.
>> > What's with all these *s of yours?
>> Asterisks are used for emphasis in a plain-text communications medium
>> like Usenet.
> 
> I knew that. Each of your words is important, so no need for *s.

You will have to leave my posting style to me.  I thought it important to 
emphasize the word “this”.  Had you followed the reference I have given, you 
would have found out that there are differentials in the equations from 
where this equation can be derived.
 
>> > What age are you, thirty something?
>> Ad hominem.
> 
> No Thomas, mine's just a simple friendly question.

Doubtful.  You have asked that question when referring to maturity and 
emoticons, saying that you would be “too mature” to use emoticons.  which, 
as I have used an emoticon here, implies that you think an age of “thirty 
something” is not mature.

Besides, my age is irrelevant to this discussion, and none of your business 
anyway.

> Got emoticon for that?

I use emoticons where appropriate; I use them sparingly because I assume 
that people have a sense of humor.
 
>> --
>> Q: Why is electricity so dangerous?
>> A: It doesn't conduct itself.
>> 
>> (from: WolframAlpha)
> 
> -- Mahipal 'WolframAlpha should get a Comedy Central gig.'

They just collect known scientific jokes.  Among many other things, most of 
which are rather serious, you can ask WolframAlpha to give you a math joke 
(the default), a physics joke, or a chemistry joke:

<http://www.wolframalpha.com/examples/Surprises.html>


PointedEars
-- 
Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door
   when he went camping?  
A: 'Gone fission'.
(from: WolframAlpha)

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                Re: What is mass? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-26 16:17 +0200
          a-hem; m = F/a is also gOOd noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 17:16 -0700
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                What is mass (was: top-posting is frpowned upon by certain advertizers ... just don't ask them, why not) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-28 17:05 +0200
                a.k.a photonics -- thanks for the tip (pi dollars is gOOd noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:28 -0700
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