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Y.Porat wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 5:31:5 PointedEars
>> --
>> Q: What did the female magnet say to the male magnet?
>> A: From the back, I found you repulsive, but from the front
>>    I find myself very attracted to you.
>> (from: WolframAlpha)
> ========================================

Why are you quoting the scientific joke in my random signature, but not the 
part of my posting that you are actually referring to?

> photons have mass = 0 ???

Yes, that is the current assumption.

It is required for two observations:

1. that the range of the electromagnetic interaction, for which photons are
   the carriers, is apparently infinite;

2. that this interaction happens at the speed of light (which lead to the
   oft-confirmed assumption of Maxwell that light *is* an electromagnetic
   wave).

It is possible that this is not exactly so, that photons have a small mass 
that is just very close to zero.  Then the range of the electromagnetic 
force would not be infinite, but just very very great (up to including about 
90 billion light-years proper distance and increasing, as we can still see 
the CMB), and then either they could not travel at the speed of light or 
relativity would have to be revised or replaced by a better theory.

The Particle Data Group currently places the limit for the mass of the 
photon at less than 10⁻¹⁸ eV in natural units (c = 1):

<http://pdg.lbl.gov/2014/tables/rpp2014-sum-gauge-higgs-bosons.pdf>

> Your F en mother has mass 0 !!
> 
> JUST REMEMBER BLOCKHEAD  PARROT :
> 
> the most simple  powerful basic new rule of physics :
> 
> ==============================================
> NO MASS **THE ONLY !! MASS ** - NO REAL PHYSICS !!!
> =================================================
> historic copyright
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> ======================

Poor crackPorat, nobody listens to your nonsense.


PointedEars
-- 
A neutron walks into a bar and inquires how much a drink costs.
The bartender replies, "For you? No charge."

(from: WolframAlpha)

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              Re: What is mass? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 22:34 -0700
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          Re: What is mass? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-09-26 12:35 +0000
            Re: What is mass? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-26 15:37 +0200
              Re: What is mass? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 07:14 -0700
                Re: What is mass? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-26 16:17 +0200
          a-hem; m = F/a is also gOOd noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 17:16 -0700
            Re: a-hem; m = F/a is also gOOd Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-27 03:26 +0200
              top-posting is frpowned upon by certain advertizers ... just don't ask them, why not noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 15:53 -0700
                What is mass (was: top-posting is frpowned upon by certain advertizers ... just don't ask them, why not) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-28 17:05 +0200
                a.k.a photonics -- thanks for the tip (pi dollars is gOOd noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:28 -0700
                Re: a.k.a photonics -- thanks for the tip (pi dollars is gOOd Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-29 21:01 +0200
                no skwares in the medium of space noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:29 -0700
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        Re: What is mass? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 00:29 -0700
          Re: What is mass? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-29 13:21 +0200
            Re: What is mass? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-29 13:34 +0200
            Re: What is mass? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 05:19 -0700
        Re: What is mass? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 05:40 -0700
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          Re: What is mass? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 02:21 -0700
            Re: What is mass? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 19:11 -0700
              Re: What is mass? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 00:39 -0700
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                Re: What is mass? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 16:07 -0700
                Re: What is mass? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 00:18 -0700
                Re: What is mass? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 06:15 -0700
                Re: What is mass? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 01:11 -0700
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