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Re: Sound hardware access for RO

From Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk>
Subject Re: Sound hardware access for RO
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.programmer
Date 2012-01-11 15:13 +0000
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In article <kt0rg7h051kdvd8v8mi4jsj9jmu01pgjmc@4ax.com>, John Kortink
<kortink@inter.nl.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:18:46 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
> <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

> >The 'Prize' I tried offerring to encourage someone to impliment modern
> >USB sound 'card' support for RO has now lapsed. No-one applied to me
> >for this, so I had essentially zero feedback. The closest I got was
> >some people saying they also wanted to see this being done.
> >
> >What do people think would be needed to get someone interested in doing
> >this, and obtaining a satisfactory result that can then be applied to
> >the various hardware systems people are - or intending to - working on
> >having RO run on?
> >
> >Is the problem simply that no-one with an interest in RO thinks they
> >are able to do this? Or is it lack of money on offer? Or that no-one
> >has any interest in serious audio? Or... what?

> The couple of times that I glanced at what is being offered for what
> (a.k.a. RISC OS Open 'bounties'), it looked like a joke to me.
> Professionals could not work for more than one or two days for that sort
> of money.

Did you not read the webpage (or the article)? It did clearly say:
  
"... a cash 'prize' to be awarded to the first person or company
or group of persons who produces new software for RISC OS that satisfies
the following requirements. The Prize is for £300 pounds. This is not meant
to be a full payment as if the project were a commercial commission. It is
simply offered to attract interest in the challenge to produce a specific
useful item for RO users, and win the prize‘ as a public recognition."

So I did realise it would not attract anyone who simply wanted a paid job.

I then listed the requirements, etc. cf below.
  
I can understand that you (and others) will have no interest if your
only concern is being paid a professional rate. That is fair enough. 
However my impression is that some other people work on RO for reasons
other than earning a weekly wage. And may do some work out of interest,
or challenge, or to aid the usefulness and useage of RO. Not all of
them may have realised that the modern USB DACs may be a neat way to
'abstract' good audio provision from the specific RO hardware.


> Also, the requirements are (let's put it nicely) 'lacking in detail'.
> They leave the door wide open for discussions about what 'finished'
> means.

Again, for the Prize that was explained in the webpage/article. Defined
in terms of the tasks a system would perform and how this would be
judged. However I can see that if someone is unfamiliar with the
operation of the relevant types of USB DAC, what is required may
be unclear. And if someone can't see any point in RO supporting modern
audio, I understand why they would not be interested.

But of course anyone who wanted to clarify could have contacted me.

Be interested to see what others think.

Slainte,

Jim

-- 
Electronics  http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
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Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-11 12:18 +0000
  Re: Sound hardware access for RO Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-01-11 12:30 +0000
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-11 13:43 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-01-11 22:35 +0000
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 10:08 +0000
          Re: Sound hardware access for RO Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 17:57 +0000
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-13 12:05 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Roger Darlington <rogerarm@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-03 09:03 +0100
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 09:53 +0100
  Re: Sound hardware access for RO John Kortink <kortink@inter.nl.net> - 2012-01-11 14:10 +0100
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-11 15:13 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-11 17:04 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO John Kortink <kortink@inter.nl.net> - 2012-01-11 19:58 +0100
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-01-15 17:14 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 07:11 +0100
  Re: Sound hardware access for RO druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-11 20:52 +0000
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 09:21 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-14 20:34 +0000
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 05:19 +0100
          Re: Sound hardware access for RO druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-15 12:30 +0000
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 13:38 +0000
              Re: Sound hardware access for RO druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 23:38 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-18 09:37 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-01-27 02:05 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-27 05:19 +0100
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 15:57 +0100
              Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 17:30 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 07:22 +0100
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 09:28 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 11:31 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 12:34 +0000
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-01-16 21:19 +0000
          Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 10:18 +0000
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 16:18 +0100
              Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 17:39 +0000
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 10:01 +0000
  Re: Sound hardware access for RO Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-01-16 21:28 +0000
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 09:35 +0000
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 11:37 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO davehigton <davehigton14@googlemail.com> - 2012-01-17 05:07 -0800
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 16:46 +0000
          Re: Sound hardware access for RO Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-01-18 11:22 +1300
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 23:42 +0000
              Re: Sound hardware access for RO Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-01-18 13:47 +1300
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 12:36 +0000

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