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Re: Sound hardware access for RO

From Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk>
Subject Re: Sound hardware access for RO
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.programmer
Date 2012-01-15 10:01 +0000
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In article <jesosq$m25$1@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 12/01/2012 09:21, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> >> Where are all the RISC OS audio applications which would take
> >> advantage of a sound card? I don't think I've got any audio
> >> applications which were even ported to 32bit, so the hardware isn't
> >> going to do much.
> >
> > Put that the other way around. Why would anyone consider writing a
> > playing application that can play out, say, 96k/24 bit flac files on
> > RO if there is no way to get that though the hardware to a DAC than
> > can then replay this with no loss of sample values, etc?

> Playback only is rather pointless, there are any number of devices which
> can play such files.

I note your personal opinion. But it does look like a version of "RO is
pointless because everyone can use Windows." :-)


> It would only be worthwhile the considerable effort of writing drivers
> to run software that performs more sophisticated use of the sound card,
> such as running audio creation or editing software. But I doubt any RISC
> OS system has the horse power to deal with 96K/24 bit sound.

Again, your personal opinion of what is "worthwhile" is noted. However the
reality is that many people want to play music without wishing to create or
edit it.

I'm also puzzled by the idea that *no* RO hardware could drive out LPCM
96k/24bit via USB from a Wave file. 

> > Am I wrong to think that writing such a player would be much simpler
> > than the task of implimenting the USB async/isochronous path? Either
> > way, why write such a player when it can't be used?

> The simplest solution would be to play using an iPod. If you really want
> to involve the computer, how about DNLA software control streaming it
> from a storage device to a home theatre system.

Yes, just as many no doubt have found  it simplest to give up using RO
entirely for various other reasons.

I must admit I have been surprised by the fairly negative tone of many of
the responses I've had. But this may explain the lack of response to the
specific issue. Maybe these days people have simply become habituated to
thinking "there is no point" when someone suggests a new avenue for RO use.

Slainte,

Jim

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Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-11 12:18 +0000
  Re: Sound hardware access for RO Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-01-11 12:30 +0000
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-11 13:43 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-01-11 22:35 +0000
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 10:08 +0000
          Re: Sound hardware access for RO Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 17:57 +0000
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-13 12:05 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Roger Darlington <rogerarm@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-03 09:03 +0100
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 09:53 +0100
  Re: Sound hardware access for RO John Kortink <kortink@inter.nl.net> - 2012-01-11 14:10 +0100
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-11 15:13 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-11 17:04 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO John Kortink <kortink@inter.nl.net> - 2012-01-11 19:58 +0100
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-01-15 17:14 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 07:11 +0100
  Re: Sound hardware access for RO druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-11 20:52 +0000
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 09:21 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-14 20:34 +0000
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 05:19 +0100
          Re: Sound hardware access for RO druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-15 12:30 +0000
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 13:38 +0000
              Re: Sound hardware access for RO druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 23:38 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-18 09:37 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-01-27 02:05 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-27 05:19 +0100
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 15:57 +0100
              Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 17:30 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 07:22 +0100
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 09:28 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 11:31 +0000
                Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 12:34 +0000
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-01-16 21:19 +0000
          Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 10:18 +0000
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 16:18 +0100
              Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 17:39 +0000
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 10:01 +0000
  Re: Sound hardware access for RO Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-01-16 21:28 +0000
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 09:35 +0000
    Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 11:37 +0000
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO davehigton <davehigton14@googlemail.com> - 2012-01-17 05:07 -0800
        Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 16:46 +0000
          Re: Sound hardware access for RO Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-01-18 11:22 +1300
            Re: Sound hardware access for RO Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-17 23:42 +0000
              Re: Sound hardware access for RO Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-01-18 13:47 +1300
      Re: Sound hardware access for RO Jim Lesurf <jcgl@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-01-17 12:36 +0000

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