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| From | Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.os.linux |
| Subject | Re: I Have Found My Editor |
| Date | 2019-06-26 12:53 +0200 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Strider |
| Message-ID | <20190626125353.0a31b2ba@nx-74205> (permalink) |
| References | <qek1ao02uca@news1.newsguy.com> <YqwQE.5332$yA4.4860@fx07.iad> <qeui0802i8d@news2.newsguy.com> |
On 26.06.2019 at 01:32, F. Russell scribbled: > On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:33:44 +0000, azigni wrote: > > > It sure is a good thing we use Linux and have choices! > > To get a better feel for the junk that Micro$oft has become, > check out this excellent web site on "debotnetting" Win10: > > https://fdossena.com/basic.php?p=w10debotnet/index_1903.frag > > However, this web site may also provide a look at the future > of Linux with systemd. Just replace the reptilian figure > of Satya Nadella with the snake-like Lennart Poettering. > > The Micro$oft OS is a tiny kernel with thousands of add-on > "services." Systemd is taking Linux in the same developmental > direction. Dude, your relentless crusade against systemd is becoming utterly boring, to the point where I for one find it extremely difficult to take anything you write seriously anymore. I used to be anti-systemd too, because I just couldn't understand WHY it was being adopted at such a fast rate, while it wasn't even production-ready yet. And neither Lennart's smugness on account of other distributions than RedHat nor the political motivations behind systemd's adoption BY other distributions were helping in that regard. But then I decided to look at things from a technical perspective, and apart from the binary logs — which I still don't think is a good idea — systemd does make sense. And now I'm using it, and it does exactly what it says on the label. It works, and it works very well. Yes, it's a different way of doing things. Yes, it does appear as if it's not the traditional UNIX way, but that's just an illusion, because systemd is the name of more than just the init daemon. If you look at how it works, then it IS comprised of small modules that do one thing only, and the "PID = 1" daemon itself is relatively small. If you don't want the binary logs for instance, then it's trivial to disable journald and start another logger like rsyslogd. You are not against systemd because of what it is, but because you are having a knee-jerk reaction over what systemd is NOT. If I were you, I'd be worrying whole heck of a lot more about the corporate-fascist surveillance features in Google Chrome and the way the corporate world at large is regarding each and every one of us as a tradable commodity. There is something very disturbing and brainwashing about the language and innuendos used in the settings of Chrome and Chromium. "My gosh, do you really want to send a "do not track" signal to web sites??? If you do that, then they won't be able to send you ads about things that you might wat to purchase even though you don't need them! Are you sure that you really want that??? Really??? Okay then, enter your password, type Ctrl+Alt+S, followed by SysRq+Z, click three times on the red button, followed by a double-click on the green button, then go outside, take off your clothes and dance five times around a burning candle in the wind. After completing this procedure, Google Chrome will now send a "do not track" signal with your traffic. But if you want to use an ad blocker too, then you must first buy a plane ticket to Timbuktu, say twenty "Hail Mary"'s, hold your breath while tapping the space bar twice with the big toe of your left foot, ..." </hyperbole> Store your data in the cloud, entrust the corporations with your valuable data, pay them to store it, and then they can pull the plug on their cloud storage offer any time "because of changing market demands" and you end up losing all your data. Plus that it gives them a greater ability to track your behavior and — you've guessed it — send you targeted ads. The Dutch film director Paul Verhoeven — known internationally from movies like (the original) "Total Recall", the "Robocop" series and the "Starship Troopers" series — has been trying to warn the world for decades of the upcoming corporate-fascist tech revolution THROUGH his movies. And here we are. Don't even bother talking to anyone at the bus stop anymore, because they've got earbuds in and their eyes are glued to their smartphones. They're zombies. If I were you, I'd start worrying a little more about all of that, than about systemd. systemd isn't perfect, but neither is sysvinit. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because of the politics that were involved over at other distributions like Debian and Ubuntu. -- With respect, = Aragorn =
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Re: I Have Found My Editor vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-06-24 18:03 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 23:00 +0200
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Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-25 01:07 +0200
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Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-25 13:23 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-24 04:28 +0000
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Re: I Have Found My Editor Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-23 16:43 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-23 17:54 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-24 09:18 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-24 10:30 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 13:53 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-24 12:49 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 15:14 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 09:52 -0400
Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-24 14:12 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 10:43 -0400
Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 23:27 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:30 +0200
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Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-22 14:54 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-22 20:51 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:17 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:50 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 15:55 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-06-22 17:43 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-22 20:54 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 03:17 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-23 07:24 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 16:46 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-24 00:56 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-24 04:26 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-23 10:56 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor azigni <azigni@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-25 21:33 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-26 01:32 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 12:53 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-26 11:48 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-26 07:39 -0500
Re: I Have Found My Editor fr314159@gmail.com - 2019-06-26 05:51 -0700
Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 18:13 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 13:54 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-26 12:16 +0000
Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 15:42 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 18:18 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 21:07 +0200
Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-26 12:26 +0000
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