Re: I Have Found My Editor

From	vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux
Subject	Re: I Have Found My Editor
Date	2019-06-24 18:03 +0000
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:26:15 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 09:46:07 -0400, David W. Hodgins
> <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 08:37:49 -0400, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@cccp.mir>
>> wrote:
>>> anyway a column must span all the file, from first to last row (at
>>> worst with empty fields), and this for each column.
>>> If it don't then the text is not table-like, and the column concept is
>>> no longer relevant
> 
>> Just because you've never worked with a table where each row has a
>> variable number of columns, or tables that have more dimensions than
>> just rows and columns doesn't mean that they don't exist or aren't
>> still tables.
> 
> Just occurred to me. The expectation that the columns must exist is due
> to the assumption that every row in the table must be able to be
> accessed randomly.
> 
> Tables do not have to be able to be accessed randomly to be tables.
> 
> Using either a delimiter (as used in ascii text files), or a counter of
> the number of characters in that row, at the beginning of each row (as
> used in variable length ebcdic files) can be used to allow the table to
> be processed sequentially.
> 
> If an in core table must be able to be accessed using random access for
> the rows, then yes, space must be reserved to keep each row the same
> length. If you're willing to give up using random access and only use
> sequential access, then they do not have to be the same length.
> 
> You may not consider a table that can only be processed sequentially to
> be a table, but courses in data structures do consider them to be
> tables.
> 
> An ascii text file is a table of variable length strings (which are
> single dimension tables with just the column numbers for subscripts)
> delimited by newline characters. While the rows cannot be accessed using
> random addressing, the characters/columns within each row (line) can be.
> 
> A text file loaded into core, and searched line by line, column by
> column for some purpose is still being processed as a table. It just has
> to be searched sequentially, from the beginning every time it's
> searched.
> 
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Indeed, it is just so.

To use an example I used not too long ago:  classic Unix /etc/passwd is a 
plain text file that contains a table.

-- 
 -v

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I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 01:47 +0000
  Re: I Have Found My Editor Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> - 2019-06-22 04:31 -0700
    Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:04 +0200
    Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 12:43 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 12:50 +0000
    Re: I Have Found My Editor John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 07:21 -0500
      Re: I Have Found My Editor Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-06-22 15:29 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 10:16 -0500
    Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 13:45 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:00 +0000
        Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 15:54 +0000
          Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:08 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 11:37 -0500
              Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 23:21 +0200
              Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-23 14:44 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-23 19:44 +0000
          Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-23 17:47 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 16:07 +0000
          Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:33 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:46 +0000
              Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-22 18:18 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-22 20:13 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-23 11:03 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-23 11:15 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 10:05 -0500
                Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-23 15:33 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-23 15:34 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-23 15:53 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-24 00:58 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-23 21:33 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-24 07:35 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 11:45 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 07:45 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 08:34 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-24 14:37 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 15:09 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 09:46 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 12:26 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-06-24 18:03 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 23:00 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 17:25 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-25 16:42 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-25 01:07 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-25 04:15 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-25 13:23 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-24 04:28 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-23 14:03 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-23 16:43 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-23 17:54 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-24 09:18 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-24 10:30 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 13:53 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-24 12:49 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 15:14 +0200
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 09:52 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-24 14:12 +0000
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-24 10:43 -0400
                Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 23:27 +0200
      Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:30 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-22 14:59 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-22 14:54 +0000
    Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-22 20:51 +0000
  Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:17 +0200
    Re: I Have Found My Editor Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-06-22 14:50 +0200
      Re: I Have Found My Editor "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 15:55 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor Yrrah <Yrrah-aol@aol.invalid> - 2019-06-22 17:43 +0200
  Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-22 20:54 +0000
    Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 03:17 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-23 07:24 +0000
        Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 16:46 +0000
          Re: I Have Found My Editor Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-24 00:56 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-06-24 04:26 +0000
  Re: I Have Found My Editor Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-06-23 10:56 +0000
  Re: I Have Found My Editor azigni <azigni@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-25 21:33 +0000
    Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-06-26 01:32 +0000
      Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 12:53 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-26 11:48 +0000
          Re: I Have Found My Editor Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-26 07:39 -0500
            Re: I Have Found My Editor fr314159@gmail.com - 2019-06-26 05:51 -0700
          Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 18:13 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 13:54 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-06-26 12:16 +0000
            Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 15:42 +0200
          Re: I Have Found My Editor Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-26 18:18 +0200
            Re: I Have Found My Editor Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2019-06-26 21:07 +0200
        Re: I Have Found My Editor "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-26 12:26 +0000

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