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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: What is Forth anyway? |
| Date | 2017-06-08 11:52 +0000 |
| Organization | Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien |
| Message-ID | <2017Jun8.135217@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink) |
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"Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> writes:
>Anton Ertl wrote:
>
>> "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> writes:
>> > The argument that libraries contain too many dependencies and that
>> > if you need one feature, you must pull in a lot of other code,
>> > doesn't hold either. Well written libraries don't have such heavy
>> > dependencies.
>>
>> Why not?
>
>Because they are well written. That is part of designing a good library
>(or of writing good code for any purpose): remove dependencies as much
>as you can.
This is just a repetition of the statement that I questioned. Again:
Why do you consider that good?
>Of course one library can depend on another, but it should
>only link in what it needs.
Well, of course. And it should only depend on things it needs. But
we often have the choice to add a dependency on some other library
because we want some function of that library, or to have a copy of
that function in our library or application, or to reimplement that
functionality in our library or application. In my view each approach
has advantages and disadvantages, and we have to balance them based on
the concrete situation. Unconditionally removing "dependencies as
much as you can" means always using copying or reimplementation, and
foregoes the advantages of dependences.
- anton
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