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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: What is Forth anyway? |
| Date | 2017-06-06 10:10 +0000 |
| Organization | Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien |
| Message-ID | <2017Jun6.121032@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink) |
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lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> writes:
>How much faster would Forth become with maybe hundreds of highly optimized =
>stack juggling words, like under+, over+, tuck+, underdup, underswap,......=
>. which almost made juggling word combinations unnecessary?
A Forth compiler like VFX will not become any faster at all (indeed, I
have seen a case where a primitive resulted in slower code than what
VFX synthesized out of equivalent Forth code (of course, I would not
call that primitive "highly optimized"). Even in Gforth, if we want
to combine "OVER +" into a superinstruction, we just do it, and a
separate word will not help.
- anton
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