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| Date | 2017-06-04 17:33 -0700 |
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| Subject | Re: What is Forth anyway? |
| From | Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> |
воскресенье, 4 июня 2017 г., 21:12:39 UTC+3 пользователь Alex написал: > On 6/4/2017 14:07, HAA wrote: > > Brad Eckert wrote: > >> ... > >> Where to go with Forth? You might as well ask where to go with religion. You don't need > >> one true religion any more than you need one true computer language. I'd say fork the > >> hell out of ANS and make it yours. Screw compatibility. If your dialect can be arrived > >> at (however tortuously) by 2012x, you're golden. > > > > Chuck might agree: > > > > "Portability is not important. Portability is not possible. Real applications are closely > > coupled to hardware. Change the platform and all the code changes. If it didn't, you > > wouldn't have changed the platform. To abstract the problem from the hardware > > requires massive software like Windows, that's a permanent tax on all applications > > to save some one-time programming." > > > > > > > > Chuck identifies something called a "real" application. "Real > applications are closely coupled to hardware." In other words, "real" > applications are applications that can't be ported. Well, duh. > > There are billions of lines of code out there in unreal apps, and not > enough real or virtual Chucks to fix them all every time the hardware > changes. > > Portability is incredibly important, and it's achievable. We'd still be > on 8 bit steam driven chips if Chuck was even half ways right, and we're > not. > Portability is a feature, but not "incredibly important". Would anyone abandon Forth, if portability is not 100%? I'm not sure. Having a knowledge how to write my own compiler, I feel no duty to implement all features exactly as determined previously by someone. If someone can write a compiler, others should help him, not discourage by pointing to many documents he still don't conform.
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