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Dealing with multiple recognizers (was: RfD: new double syntax)

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Dealing with multiple recognizers (was: RfD: new double syntax)
Date 2016-07-03 15:13 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2016Jul3.171348@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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hughaguilar96@gmail.com writes:
>On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 7:39:01 AM UTC-7, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> writes:
>> >Hello from an unexperience reader,
>> >Why not create a new VARIABLE (name TBD) which will contain the preferre=
>d c=3D
>> >har indicating double.
...
>So, how is your criticism of Gerard's idea any different from my criticism =
>of your beloved "recognizer" idea?

I don't see much in common between my criticism of TBD (even if it is
not meant as a real name, it's a better handle than "Gerard's idea")
and your criticism of recognizers, so let me answer a different
question:

Would not user-defined recognizers have the same problems that BASE or
TBD have?

1) User-defined recognizers propose not just one variable, that
contains the current recognizer, and then you put in a different one.
If they did, then yes, the same problems would be there.  But for that
reason the proposal proposes a recognizer stack, that contains
multiple recognizers, similar to the search order.

2) Ideally, recognizers recognize disjoint sets of strings, or
alternatively, are designed to work together.  Of course, for
independently developed recognizers there is no guarantee of that they
don't overlap, but the programmer combining these recognizers can then
determine the priority by arranging them appropriately in the
recognizer stack; as a last resort, have some recognizer be first in
one file, and another recognizer be first in another file, but that
would be a short-term solution that should be resolved soon (e.g., by
adding an alternative non-conflicting syntax for at least one of the
recognizers).

I expect that the number of recognizers in general use will be
limited, and the authors will be keen on not treading on each others
toes; of course, I expect that there will be some people that do their
own thing and expect the world to revolve around them, but I don't
expect that recognizers that significantly conflict with other popular
recognizers to become widely used.

- anton
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RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-01 17:18 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 11:45 -0700
    Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 14:46 -0400
  Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 11:47 -0700
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:54 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax mhx@iae.nl - 2016-07-01 11:48 -0700
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:52 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-01 09:10 -1000
    Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 19:10 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 06:23 +0000
  RfD: new double syntax krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2016-07-01 20:54 -0700
    RfD: new double syntax krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2016-07-01 21:18 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 22:26 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 22:32 +0000
          Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 01:16 -0400
            Re: RfD: new double syntax Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 08:34 +0300
              Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 03:00 -0400
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 10:20 +0300
                Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 08:29 +0000
            Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 23:10 -0700
              Re: RfD: new double syntax Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 23:20 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 03:02 -0400
      Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:20 +0000
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:11 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-07-02 00:26 -0700
    Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-01 22:22 -1000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-07-02 22:02 +1000
        Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-02 11:19 -1000
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 14:02 +0000
  Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-02 04:03 -0500
    Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 13:44 +0000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 07:38 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-02 07:42 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-02 09:58 -0500
      Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-02 11:32 -1000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-03 00:27 +0000
      Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 08:05 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-04 03:50 -0500
        Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-04 03:53 -0500
  Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-02 17:32 +0000
    Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 10:52 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2016-07-02 13:03 -0700
      Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 15:02 +0000
        Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 11:18 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2016-07-03 21:19 +0200
    Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-07-03 11:36 +0100
      Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:58 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 14:21 +0000
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 07:55 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 08:08 -0700
            Dealing with multiple recognizers (was: RfD: new double syntax) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 15:13 +0000
              Re: Dealing with multiple recognizers (was: RfD: new double syntax) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 09:57 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 01:12 -0400
            Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 07:56 -0700
              Re: RfD: new double syntax rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 11:18 -0400
        Re: RfD: new double syntax JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2016-07-03 08:15 -0700
        Re: RfD: new double syntax Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-03 12:42 -0500
          Re: RfD: new double syntax "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-07-03 09:32 -1000
            Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 07:34 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 10:35 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 09:00 -0700
            Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 09:51 -0700
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-04 11:20 -0500
            Re: RfD: new double syntax Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 04:08 -0700
              Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-06 06:24 -0500
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Alex McDonald <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-07-06 12:38 +0100
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-06 06:46 -0500
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 13:37 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-07 03:28 -0500
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-08-04 23:59 +0000
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-08-04 19:26 -0500
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 17:34 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-05 02:57 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-05 13:15 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-06 01:56 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-07 17:22 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-08 04:56 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-08-08 08:50 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-08 12:26 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-08-08 15:41 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax mhx@iae.nl - 2016-08-08 23:06 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-08-09 00:57 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-09 03:05 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-10 01:46 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-10 19:07 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-08-11 05:24 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax josv@planet.nl - 2016-08-06 04:50 -0700
                Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-08-05 12:01 -0500
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-04 08:51 -0500
          Re: RfD: new double syntax Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-07-04 04:03 -0500
      Re: RfD: new double syntax anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-03 14:56 +0000
        Re: RfD: new double syntax Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-07-03 22:00 +0100

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