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Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera

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Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad
Subject Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera
Date 2012-08-20 12:23 -0700
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In article <michelle-7F909B.12021620082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > > > If the only thing that affected the quality of the picture was the 
> > > > > physics, you'd be right (for once). 
> > > > 
> > > > what else other than physics affects the quality, other than the 
> > > > photographer's skill?
> > > 
> > > Chemistry, if you're talking about printed results.  Oh, and the 
> > > darkroom technician's skill.
> > 
> > no need to print. 
> 
> why not?

slide film.

> > film is chemistry.
> 
> > also, very little skill is needed for film development,
> 
> But skill is needed for printing, except for the most basic tasks in 
> printing.  Exposure (time and aperture), dodging, burning in, pushing, 
> selecting the right kind of paper (glossy, matt, semi-glossy, brand, paper 
> contrast, filters, etc.)

given that this is about p&s cameras, none of that happens, other than
maybe a choice in paper but even that was rarely offered. 

typically someone would drop off a roll at the local photofinisher and
a low paid worker would load it into an automated processing machine,
which spits out negatives and prints that are ready for pick up an hour
later. 

a pro photographer would take the film to a pro shop who would take the
time to do a good job. it costs more, which is part of the price you
pay for a pro.

> > > > > and Apple's software is outstanding, 
> > > > 
> > > > it's not any better than anything else.
> > > 
> > > All photographic software is the same?
> > 
> > i didn't say that.
> 
> OK, so Apple's software is no better than the worst of the rest?

it's no better than any of the rest. 

> > photoshop doesn't care if an image came from an iphone or a nikon d4 or 
> > a canon 1dx. 
> > 
> > any enhancement you can do to an iphone image can be done to an image 
> > from any other camera, 
> 
> True, but irrelevant to the statement, "it's [i.e., Apple's photographic 
> software] is not better than anything else."

it's not. anything apple's software can do, photoshop can do, and
probably better. 

> > and since you can get raw with other cameras, the processing itself will 
> > be better.
> 
> The result may be better, because the source may be better, but that has no 
> bearing on the quality or ability of the processing software.  In fact, the 
> poorer the source, the more room for better processing.

no, the poorer the source, the poorer the results. you can't turn crap
into gold.

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does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-18 11:22 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-18 07:36 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:49 +0100
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-18 09:04 -0600
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 16:24 +0100
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:42 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:38 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:04 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:30 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 09:36 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:39 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 10:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:05 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 15:21 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 16:04 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:13 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 20:43 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 21:07 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 15:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:51 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:08 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-21 21:48 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 20:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 23:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:40 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:09 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:01 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:03 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:17 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 10:59 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-22 14:28 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-22 15:03 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:39 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 12:46 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 15:58 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-22 16:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:03 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 09:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 12:32 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 12:54 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 14:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 15:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-23 16:11 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-23 20:53 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 21:05 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:01 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVEsPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:44 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2012-08-23 08:12 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 17:10 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 14:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-25 08:03 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:21 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:42 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 13:01 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-26 08:22 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 11:41 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 07:38 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 17:48 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 11:19 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 17:13 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 08:05 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 18:44 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 11:27 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 20:31 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-24 21:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 22:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:22 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:38 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 11:03 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:55 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:31 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 09:45 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 07:19 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 16:41 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 13:32 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 19:45 +0100
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:07 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:54 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 17:07 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 21:54 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:16 +0100
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 19:29 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:51 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:11 +0100
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-19 20:33 -0400
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 08:40 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-20 11:29 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:43 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 16:57 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 15:26 +0100
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:45 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:52 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 10:53 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:49 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:42 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 17:14 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 23:04 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> - 2012-08-18 07:30 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 10:19 -0500
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:54 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-18 11:41 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:22 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-18 12:12 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2012-08-18 16:16 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:01 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:37 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Gerry <once@around-the-block.org> - 2012-08-18 10:03 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:42 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:04 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 15:44 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 15:53 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 19:34 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> - 2012-08-18 18:07 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:33 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 00:55 -0600
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:31 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:23 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 08:38 -0400
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-08-20 06:29 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 07:32 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:21 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 11:52 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 12:03 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 12:27 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 10:13 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:24 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:25 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:20 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 12:02 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 12:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 13:25 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 15:12 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 18:23 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 19:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:47 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:42 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:28 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 00:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:22 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 20:50 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 12:59 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 22:46 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:34 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 22:59 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 16:36 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:26 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:31 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 00:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:25 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:28 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:10 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:48 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:46 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:35 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 22:01 -0600
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000

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