Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera

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Subject	Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera
Date	2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
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In article <slrnk33lvi.1isd.g.kreme@mbp55.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> >  Any decent brand P&S with a mechanical focus and zoom will take a better
> >> > picture than any cell phone camera including your precious iPhone.
> >> 
> >> Potentially.
> 
> > no potentially about it. you can't get around the laws of physics.
> 
> If the only thing that affected the quality of the picture was the
> physics, you'd be right (for once). 

what else other than physics affects the quality, other than the
photographer's skill?

> However, that is not and has *never*
> been the case.

it's *always* been the case, and always will be the case.

> In the days of film, the quality of the film was just as
> important as the quality of the optics.

this isn't about film, and that just meant you had chemistry in
addition to physics.

> In the days of digital, the
> quality of the CCD 

exactly my point. that's physics!

> and the software used to process the image is of
> critical importance. 

not really, since the same software can be used to process an image
from any camera, and actually much better software is available for p&s
cameras because they can produce raw, whereas the iphone cannot.

> The iPhone 4S has a very good CCD 

for one that's the size of a pinhead, yes. compared to other cameras,
no.

other cameras have much bigger sensors. bigger sensors mean lower noise
and higher resolution and diffraction is less of an issue (or even not
an issue at all). there's no getting around this.

> and Apple's
> software is outstanding, 

it's not any better than anything else.

> producing excellent pictures that according to
> Photogeeks, compare favorably even to DSLRs in auto-mode.

actually, photogeeks look down on cellphone cameras of any kind.

the iphone does produce decent pictures, certainly one of the best
cellphone cameras around, but it doesn't come close to a dslr, unless
perhaps, you have impaired vision or horrible technique.

> >> If you have time to get to the right setting and time for
> >> the mechanical focus to actually focus. But those things take time. 
> 
> > the iphone camera *also* has to focus and set exposure and doesn't do
> > it as fast as a decent p&s camera (or even not so decent). in fact,
> > most p&s cameras can do it in less time than it takes to just launch
> > the camera app on the iphone.
> 
> I can take a picture in less than 2 seconds on my iPhone. My point and
> Shoot Panasonic can't even turn on and push out the lens in that time,
> much less focus and take a picture.

then your panasonic is a piece of shit.

2 seconds is *slow*. you can easily miss an opportunity in less than
that (and most likely will), especially with kids, animals, sports, and
quite a bit more.

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does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-18 11:22 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-18 07:36 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:49 +0100
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-18 09:04 -0600
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 16:24 +0100
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:42 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:38 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:04 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:30 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 09:36 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:39 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 10:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:05 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 15:21 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 16:04 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:13 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 20:43 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 21:07 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 15:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:51 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:08 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-21 21:48 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 20:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 23:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:40 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:09 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:01 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:03 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:17 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 10:59 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-22 14:28 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-22 15:03 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:39 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 12:46 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 15:58 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-22 16:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:03 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 09:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 12:32 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 12:54 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 14:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 15:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-23 16:11 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-23 20:53 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 21:05 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:01 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVEsPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:44 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2012-08-23 08:12 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 17:10 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 14:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-25 08:03 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:21 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:42 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 13:01 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-26 08:22 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 11:41 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 07:38 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 17:48 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 11:19 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 17:13 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 08:05 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 18:44 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 11:27 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 20:31 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-24 21:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 22:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:22 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:38 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 11:03 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:55 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:31 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 09:45 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 07:19 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 16:41 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 13:32 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 19:45 +0100
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:07 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:54 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 17:07 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 21:54 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:16 +0100
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 19:29 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:51 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:11 +0100
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-19 20:33 -0400
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 08:40 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-20 11:29 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:43 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 16:57 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 15:26 +0100
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:45 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:52 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 10:53 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:49 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:42 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 17:14 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 23:04 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> - 2012-08-18 07:30 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 10:19 -0500
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:54 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-18 11:41 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:22 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-18 12:12 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2012-08-18 16:16 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:01 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:37 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Gerry <once@around-the-block.org> - 2012-08-18 10:03 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:42 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:04 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 15:44 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 15:53 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 19:34 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> - 2012-08-18 18:07 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:33 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 00:55 -0600
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:31 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:23 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 08:38 -0400
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-08-20 06:29 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 07:32 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:21 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 11:52 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 12:03 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 12:27 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 10:13 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:24 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:25 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:20 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 12:02 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 12:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 13:25 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 15:12 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 18:23 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 19:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:47 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:42 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:28 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 00:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:22 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 20:50 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 12:59 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 22:46 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:34 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 22:59 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 16:36 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:26 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:31 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 00:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:25 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:28 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:10 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:48 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:46 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:35 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 22:01 -0600
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000

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