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Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad
Subject Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera
Date 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
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In article <michelle-913EA0.09315120082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > If the only thing that affected the quality of the picture was the 
> > > physics, you'd be right (for once). 
> > 
> > what else other than physics affects the quality, other than the 
> > photographer's skill?
> 
> Chemistry, if you're talking about printed results.  Oh, and the darkroom 
> technician's skill.

no need to print. film is chemistry.

also, very little skill is needed for film development, unless you are
shooting sheet film where you can alter development for one image at a
time. if you shoot roll film, you can't do much, unless the entire roll
was shot in the same way (e.g., push processing the whole roll), and
then you just adjust appropriately for the whole roll. push one stop,
add x minutes. not much skill needed. 

> If you're talking about digital images, displayed on CRTs, LED screens, 
> Plasma screens, or LCD screens, etc., then there's the skill of the 
> image-manipulating-software's user.

that's not unique to any particular camera. 

> > > The iPhone 4S has a very good CCD 
> > 
> > for one that's the size of a pinhead, yes. compared to other cameras,
> > no.
> 
> When one talks about the size of a pinhead, it is generally assumed to be a 
> "straight pin" as used in sewing:
> 
> Pinhead:  1.5mm diameter.
> 
> CCD Chip Size = 4.54 x 3.39 mm^2
> 
> Therefore, the size of the iPhone's CCD is much larger than that of a 
> pinhead.

i knew someone would argue that. 

referring to a sensor as the size of a pinhead is not meant to be taken
literally and you know it.

the sensor is *tiny*. it's smaller than any p&s camera, and by quite a
bit, which has a huge effect on image quality. again, you can't get
around the laws of physics.

> > > and Apple's software is outstanding, 
> > 
> > it's not any better than anything else.
> 
> All photographic software is the same?

i didn't say that.

photoshop doesn't care if an image came from an iphone or a nikon d4 or
a canon 1dx. 

any enhancement you can do to an iphone image can be done to an image
from any other camera, and since you can get raw with other cameras,
the processing itself will be better.

> > the iphone does produce decent pictures, certainly one of the best
> > cellphone cameras around, but it doesn't come close to a dslr,
> 
> True.

ok.

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does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-18 11:22 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-18 07:36 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:49 +0100
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-18 09:04 -0600
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 16:24 +0100
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:42 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:38 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:04 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:30 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 09:36 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:39 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 10:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:05 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 15:21 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 16:04 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:13 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 20:43 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 21:07 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 15:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:51 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:08 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-21 21:48 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 20:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 23:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:40 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:09 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:01 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:03 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:17 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 10:59 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-22 14:28 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-22 15:03 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:39 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 12:46 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 15:58 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-22 16:10 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:03 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 09:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 12:32 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 12:54 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 14:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 15:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-23 16:11 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-23 20:53 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 21:05 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:01 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVEsPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:44 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2012-08-23 08:12 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 17:10 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 14:20 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-25 08:03 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:21 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:42 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 13:01 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-26 08:22 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 11:41 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 07:38 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 17:48 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 11:19 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 17:13 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 08:05 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 18:44 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 11:27 +1000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 20:31 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-24 21:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 22:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:22 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:38 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 11:03 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:55 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:31 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 09:45 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 07:19 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 16:41 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 13:32 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 19:45 +0100
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:07 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:54 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 17:07 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 21:54 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:16 +0100
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 19:29 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:51 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:11 +0100
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-19 20:33 -0400
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 08:40 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-20 11:29 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:43 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 16:57 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 15:26 +0100
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:45 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:52 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 10:53 -0500
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:49 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:42 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 17:14 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 23:04 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> - 2012-08-18 07:30 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 10:19 -0500
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:54 -0700
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-18 11:41 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:22 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-18 12:12 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2012-08-18 16:16 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:01 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:37 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Gerry <once@around-the-block.org> - 2012-08-18 10:03 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:42 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:04 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 15:44 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 15:53 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 19:34 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> - 2012-08-18 18:07 -0400
  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:33 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 00:55 -0600
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:31 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:23 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 08:38 -0400
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-08-20 06:29 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 07:32 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:21 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 11:52 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 12:03 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 12:27 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 10:13 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:24 -0600
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:25 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:20 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 12:02 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 12:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 13:25 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 15:12 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 18:23 -0500
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 19:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:47 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:42 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:23 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:33 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:31 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:28 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 00:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:22 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 20:50 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 12:59 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 22:46 +0100
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:34 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 22:59 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 16:36 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:26 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:31 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 00:06 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:25 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:28 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:10 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:48 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:46 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:35 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 22:01 -0600
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000

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