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Re: Should we jail librarians ? !

From benj <nobody@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.free.newsservers, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Should we jail librarians ? !
References <mqkskv$m8g$1@speranza.aioe.org> <pan.2015.08.14.19.13.36@localhost.localdomain> <DeSdnUdLz6-HHVPInZ2dnUU7-f-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.16{3.09A.Seattle.2015}>
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Date 2015-08-17 03:08 -0400

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On 08/16/2015 06:09 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
> Bob_Watkins wrote:
>> The closest you can come to "free" information is
>> if you decide, as a group, to pay for it as a group.
>> That's called:
>>
>> [ding, ding, ding, ding]  You guessed it!  A library!
>
> Here's a good library or two:
>
>    rarbg.to/s/MVGroup/
>    rarbg.to/torrents.php?category=41
>    kickass.unblocked.pw/usearch/_A_Search_Term_/?field=time_add&sorder=desc
>
> Copying a file might be "illegal", but it's not "theft";
> it's better than checking out a CD from the library ! ! ?
>
> Should we jail librarians
> and make them return their "ill_gotten gains" ? !
>
> Through luck, or whatever, some can _waste_ money on houses,
> cars, and vacations... So why begrudge those who'd copy files ?

Rolf, you are still an idiot. Copying a file IS theft if the file is 
copyrighted. "RIGHT TO COPY"!  Get the picture? To copy without the 
right to do so is theft pure and simple. Libraries PAY for their copies 
of things. It's the library patrons who get to read, listen to, view, 
whatever, the file without paying for it. Basically the library buys the 
book and you get to READ it, but you never own the book nor have the 
right to even copy it.

The problem that has developed with digital technology is that it has 
become easy to illegally copy things making a perfect copy which then is 
every bit as good as the original. (Note in the past actions like 
recording of records never produced an exact copy, but an inferior one)

This is why to me it is important to monitor copyright laws to insure 
they are used as an enhancement of civilization that ENCOURAGES people 
to produce such materials rather than a tool of greed extending long 
beyond the author's life and making no exceptions for research and 
education. We all die and that means we ALL have a duty to pass on what 
we know to the next generations. That's why there are "fair use" 
exceptions for copyrights etc. There is a fine line here but a line that 
CAN be figured out. In fact many in the "open source" community have 
already figured much of it out!

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