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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? |
| Date | 2025-05-29 00:27 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On Sun, 5/25/2025 6:19 AM, T wrote:
> On 5/25/25 1:49 AM, Paul wrote:
>> Macrium
>
> I am allergic to proprietary software. I have had too many
> customers with proprietary backup software crash and not
> be able to recover because of proprietary formats and
> vendors that are out of business or want a fortune and a month
> to recover data on outdated versions of software they
> no longer support.
>
> I will not use a product I can not recover data from
> with a simple file manager. This is why I suffer
> the bug riddled Cobian Reflector.
>
> I also am very well versed with Clonzilla
>
Give us a status report when you're done. I'm curious
how many hours stuff like this takes, and whether you
can do a lot of it remotely so it can run and you can
do other stuff while it bakes.
I find there are many phases of Windows stuff, I have
to watch them like a hawk, to find out what went wrong
(visual symptoms). I know that with answer files, you
can automate things a bit. but I don't know if that's
really a total solution.
*******
There are some methods, which aren't as much of a backup
as you would hope. "Windows 7 Backup" uses a container per
partition. "Disk2VHD" from Sysinternals, gives a VHD for
the whole thing (which can be cumbersome at times, like
if the eventual target is a virtual machine guest). But it
might not do the boot track. And you might not guess that
was the case, following the path some individuals like
this have followed.
The potential advantage of methods like this, could be the speed,
as in some cases, they are not hampered by the need to generate
checksums.
https://superuser.com/questions/1070984/disktovhd-generated-vhd-is-not-bootable
The Macrium you made fun of, in version 6 at least, still
had the "imgtovhd.exe" utility. It converts a .mrimg backup
into a disk-sized VHD. While VHD is still a proprietary format
(and mounts in Windows via a right-click), it provides a
second format which can be used to "rescue" files. The .mrimg
apparently has some repair capability, but other than note
the claim they make (it didn't always say that), I haven't
followed up and done fault injection to see what would happen.
The VHD has the limitation of supporting only 2.2TB of device,
and the more obscure and more poorly supported VHDX (infinite capacity)
is less common. I don't think VirtualBox supports it, but it is
the HyperV native format. The Sysinternals Disk2VHD has that as
an output option (VHD or VHDX), and the Windows 7 Backup on the more modern
OSes has VHDX as the file-per-partition format. The OS can mount
those containers. 7ZIP can also traverse containers like that, for
extracting a Bookmarks.html file for a user.
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/vZv9b9LK/ImgToVHD.gif
I use that occasionally, and it might work to convert
even Full backups made on later versions like Macrium 8.
But the utility is no longer supported (and partially
that would be due to the VHD versus VHDX issue). Since some
people will be using out-sized disks, that can cause issues
regarding best-tool-to-use.
Macrium has a mounter for its .mrimg files, and so you
don't need to do a restore to access a Bookmarks.html file.
That's table-stakes for a lot of backup product, is
the ability to mount a backup, and select single files
for copying. This does not modify the underlying backup recording,
which remains intact and ready to go. I think Ghost has a mounter,
Acronis TIH has a mounter (available for WDC and Seagate disks
for free).
Paul
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Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 05:26 -0700
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Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-27 03:32 -0400
Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-05-27 09:43 -0800
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