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Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso?

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso?
Date 2025-05-25 04:49 -0400
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On Sat, 5/24/2025 10:42 PM, T wrote:
> On 5/24/25 10:40 AM, ...winston wrote:
>> T wrote:
>>> On 5/24/25 7:14 AM, ...winston wrote:
>>>> T wrote:
>>>>> Or do I have cut it to a USB drive and
>>>>> boot of it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am after an in place upgrade that keep the
>>>>> old stuff around (not a wipe).
>>>>
>>>> For the subject of the post.
>>>>   => Yes
>>>>   - mount the iso and run setup.exe
>>>>
>>>> For the USB drive boot
>>>>   => No
>>>
>>> Awesome reply.  Thank you!
>>
>> Now go back and look at the Win10 partition structure.
>>   - To prevent certain upgrade failures due to WinRE and SafeOS
>>   Ensure:
>>    - the device is UEFI/GPT
>>    - All Windows expected partitions are present in this order
>>       System, MSR, Windows 10, Recovery, Data(or other OEM partitions)
>>    - WinRE(winre.wim) is at least this service pack build release level build or greater and a modified date of at least Mar 2025 or later(April 2025 was the latest update to WinRE)
>>   ServicePack Build : 5728
>>   Modified : 4/11/2025
>>    - As noted above, Active WinRE partition is adjacent and directly to the right of Windows partition(in a normal GPT it would be partition #4)
>>    => Run reagentc /info in an admin command prompt to see the partition#
>>    => Run DISM /Get-ImageInfo to determine the Service Pack build and latest modified date
>>   e.g. for WinRE as partition #4 on Disk 0
>>   DISM /Get-ImageInfo /ImageFile:\\? \GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim / index:1
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> I was going to do a full clonezille of both
> computes before proceeding. I am super paranoid.
> 
> I was also going to use the Rufus doctored ISO.
> 

Make yourself a Macrium Rescue stick. The legend at the top of the
picture, indicates the license status of the USB stick.

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/dVvtCWwM/Macrium-Backup-Gregore.gif

I'm running a Clonezilla, and just one partition, the partclone
promises to take 50 minutes. Macrium Reflect did the whole
disk in only 22 minutes (compression disabled). I'm testing a SaveParts.

Iotop disk read is 17.6MB/sec . This is because initially, it insisted on
doing GZIP compression, which isn't my idea of a good time :-)

      [Picture]

       https://i.postimg.cc/J4Wgqvgh/clonezilla-saveparts.gif

I modified the command and used -z0 -i 0 which is no compression
and no saving in sections (like if you were storing on FAT32 then
the compressed bits could not be over 4GB file size). Now the
capture rate of the saveparts is 90MB/sec, still not super fast
on a 150MB/sec disk drive, but at least I'm not
"getting old watching it run".

If you stop the clonezilla with a ctrl-c, the bind mount stays put and
you can rerun the command after editing and adding the -z0 . This is
a copy of a portion of the screen (and then OCRed). Clonezilla seems
to be able to figure out where to put the output files, even though the
command re-issued does not say what to do.

Clonezilla image dir: /home/partimag

Shutting down the Logical Volume Manager
Finished Shutting down the Logical Volume Manager
^C
mint@mint:/tmp/ocsroot_bind_root/MYBACKUP/2025-05-25-02-img$ sudo /usr/sbin/ocs-sr -q2 -c -j2 -z0 -i 0
                                                            -sfsck -senc -p true saveparts 2025-05-25-02-img sdb1
                                                             sdb2 sdb3 sdb4 sdb5 sdb6 sdb7 sdb8

The backup portion took about 42 minutes, versus  22 minutes for Macrium.
This is a listing of the backup directory. It is running some kind
of check now, and you might want to suppress that or figure out what
option to use so it won't do that. I captured this much, because
it is relevant to comparing Clonezilla capture to Macrium capture.

mint@mint:/tmp/ocsroot_bind_root/MYBACKUP/2025-05-25-02-img$ ls -alt
total 195516300
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root          236 May 25 04:27 Info-img-id.txt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root         4096 May 25 04:27 .
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root        15993 May 25 04:27 clonezilla-img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root          126 May 25 04:27 Info-saved-by-cmd.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root           58 May 25 04:27 Info-img-size.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root          171 May 25 04:27 Info-packages.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root          390 May 25 04:27 Info-OS-prober.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root         9426 May 25 04:27 Info-lspci.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root        31382 May 25 04:27 Info-dmi.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root        56809 May 25 04:27 Info-lshw.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root         5555 May 25 04:27 efi-nvram.dat
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root           40 May 25 04:27 parts
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root          512 May 25 04:27 sdb-mbr
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root         1091 May 25 04:27 sdb-gpt.sgdisk
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root        17920 May 25 04:27 sdb-gpt.gdisk
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root        16384 May 25 04:27 sdb-gpt-2nd
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root        17408 May 25 04:27 sdb-gpt-1st
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root          957 May 25 04:27 sdb-pt.parted.compact
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root         1097 May 25 04:27 sdb-pt.parted
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root           38 May 25 04:27 sdb-chs.sf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root         1544 May 25 04:27 sdb-pt.sf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root         2038 May 25 04:27 blkid.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root         1248 May 25 04:27 blkdev.list
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root         4096 May 25 04:27 ..
-rw------- 1 root root    601674298 May 25 04:27 sdb8.ntfs-ptcl-img.uncomp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root          317 May 25 04:26 dev-fs.list
-rw------- 1 root root  28420626890 May 25 04:26 sdb7.ntfs-ptcl-img.uncomp
-rw------- 1 root root 107228679098 May 25 04:20 sdb6.ntfs-ptcl-img.uncomp
-rw------- 1 root root     13779066 May 25 03:58 sdb5.ntfs-ptcl-img.uncomp
-rw------- 1 root root    528580638 May 25 03:58 sdb4.ntfs-ptcl-img.uncomp
-rw------- 1 root root  63359142202 May 25 03:58 sdb3.ntfs-ptcl-img.uncomp
-rw------- 1 root root     16777216 May 25 03:45 sdb2.dd-ptcl-img.uncomp
-rw------- 1 root root     39130242 May 25 03:45 sdb1.vfat-ptcl-img.uncomp
mint@mint:/tmp/ocsroot_bind_root/MYBACKUP/2025-05-25-02-img$

Clonezilla  42 minutes  601674298+28420626890+107228679098+13779066+528580638+63359142202+16777216+39130242= 200,208,389,650
Macrium     22 minutes  Macrium-Gregore-33-backup-724524-ERASEME-00-00.mrimg   200,717,939,358

The Macrium being 500MB larger could be due to it storing some sort of file manifest.

   Paul

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  Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-24 10:14 -0400
    Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 07:20 -0700
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