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| From | "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? |
| Date | 2025-05-28 08:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m9osplFphjhU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (8 earlier) <1012he2$260mp$1@dont-email.me> <1013gti$2f489$1@dont-email.me> <1013pqd$2gtr4$1@dont-email.me> <m9mdoiFdbdhU2@mid.individual.net> <10151vf$2p3ak$1@dont-email.me> |
Paul wrote: > On Tue, 5/27/2025 2:13 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote: >> Paul wrote: >>> On Tue, 5/27/2025 1:00 AM, ...winston wrote: >>>> Paul wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When you do a clean install today, the reagentc is typically >>>>> disabled. Maybe the file is on C: . Maybe the file isn't on C: at >>>>> all. I don't track the issue. I only repair them here, as my own >>>>> special kind of hobby. >>>>> >>>> >>>> During a clean install winre.wim first resides on the installation >>>> media(Sources\install.wim or install.esd) [1] >>>> During setup, it is moved to C:\Windows\System32\Recovery, when >>>> WinRe partition is created and recovery enabled it is moved to the >>>> WinRE partition(normally Recovery\WindowsRE folder). >>>> >>>> cf. >>>> <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/windows-recovery-environment--windows-re--technical-reference?view=windows-11> >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> - Install.esd is normally on MCT created media(USB or ISO) and also >>>> on some OEM media. >>>> - Install.wim is normally on the ISO(from Win11 ISO download >>>> page[don't need Linux - Win7 or Win10 os can download Win11 ISO - >>>> multi-edition x64 editions] or Virtual Studio or similar Enterprise >>>> or Partner plans providing access to the MSFT servers hosting the >>>> different ISO editions). >>>> >>> >>> Sure. Those are the materials used by the user, to manually reset >>> it. >>> >>> ******* >>> >>> There are some sample commands for checking the version number here. >>> >>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5055671-safe-os-dynamic-update-for-windows-11-version-24h2-and-server-2025-april-8-2025-80c632a5-adf9-4eef-991c-997ec2fa56c4#id0ebbh=dism_command >>> >>> reagentc /info >>> >>> Windows RE location: >>> \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE >>> >>> Dism /Get-ImageInfo >>> /ImageFile:\\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim >>> /index:1 >>> >>> Version : 10.0.22621 >>> ServicePack Build : 1 >>> >>> ( My current patch level on the Daily Driver is 23H2 22631.5335 ) >>> >>> ******* >>> # This script appears to pull an EXE out of the winre.wim and >>> check # the version stamp of the file "winpeshl.exe". >>> >>> GetWinReVersion.ps1 PowerShell script >>> >>> ... >>> $filePath = "$mountedPath\Windows\System32\winpeshl.exe" >>> $WinREVersion = (Get-Item >>> $filePath).VersionInfo.FileVersionRaw.Revision >>> >>> # Using TestDisk and not even using the Powershell script gives >>> >>> File version 10.0.22621.1 # The property of the >>> winpeshl.exe file of the WinRE.wim >>> >>> # and matches the determination of the other method. >>> >>> The one on the W11 installation (Partition 4), has never been >>> patched. The one on the W10 installation (Partition 6), is >>> 10.0.19041.5728 , which >>> means if I were to boot that W10, the Registry should be set. >>> >>> When I boot to the W10 and check, yes, the Registry is set. And it >>> is set >>> to the same value as the determination in the article. This means >>> patching >>> on the W10 partition is working, and Partition 6 is 1GB in size. >>> >>> Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows >>> NT\CurrentVersion WinREVersion 10.0.19041.5728 >>> >>> It looks for my Windows 11, that I might profit from bumping up the >>> Recovery Partition size. The W11 is not blocked by this setting, and >>> this setting is OK for the preparation of a WinRE.wim . >>> >>>> fsutil behavior query disablecompression # Disables >>>> compression on all partitions at once. >>> DisableCompression = 0 (Compression is ENABLED) # If you >>> change the setting, it requires a reboot to "take". >>> >>> Off to fix it... :-) >>> >>> Paul >> >> From Bill: >> >> Dism /Get-ImageInfo >> /ImageFile:\\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition3\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim >> /index:1 >> Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool >> >> Version: 10.0.19041.3636 >> >> Details for image : >> \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition3\Recovery\WindowsRE\winre.wim >> >> Index : 1 >> Name : Microsoft Windows Recovery Environment (x64) >> Description : Microsoft Windows Recovery Environment (x64) >> Size : 2,207,028,650 bytes >> WIM Bootable : No >> Architecture : x64 >> Hal : <undefined> >> Version : 10.0.19041 \_____ >> ServicePack Build : 1 / >> ServicePack Level : 0 >> Edition : WindowsPE >> Installation : WindowsPE >> ProductType : WinNT >> ProductSuite : >> System Root : WINDOWS >> Directories : 3624 >> Files : 16440 >> Created : 12/6/2019 - 11:11:48 PM >> Modified : 11/9/2024 - 11:14:23 AM >> >> The WIN file came from a very recent backup with Macrium. I am >> pretty sure I created the recovery partition and not Windows which >> is 523 Mb with 441 Mb used. So maybe I need to figure out how to >> increase the recovery partition size. >> >> <Bill> > > Seeing as it has never been updated, yes, there is a good chance a > bigger > partition would help. > > The Windows procedure for this, is highly unsavory. It requires > deleting > the partition and creating a new one and setting the attributes and > so on > correctly. > > How I do these is: > > 1) Resize C: while still in Windows and using "diskmgmt.msc" for its > graphical goodness. When the Shrink dialog appears, you can type in > the precise amount of space needed. 1024-533=491 . This will leave > a 491MB gap at the end of C: after you resize. > > 2) Boot Linux, such as Linux Mint 221 and use gparted > > a) sudo gparted # We're running from the USB stick or > the DVD disc # No password needed in > that case > > b) Select the Recovery Partition. I usually push it to the left > as the first operation. Then click the Apply box to Apply it, > For the second operation, I grab the right bar of the Move/Resize > dialog and pull it to make the partition full size (1024). Click > Apply. > > Linux sets the Dirty Bit, on completion. The Partition will be > scanned by Windows. > > 3) Boot back to Windows. When it says it is about to scan something, > let it continue. When in windows, open "control.exe" and the > Date/Time control panel and update the time so it reads correctly. > > Result: Doing a "reagentc.exe /info" should reveal nothing broke and > it is still enabled. Diskmgmt.msc should now show a larger > partition in place of the previous smaller one. No reloading > of the partition need be done, as the 441MB file will still be there. > > For a Linux boot media, you can use the mirror item at the top. > This is so you won't have to traverse the LM site itself and find the > file. > I prefer simple FTP-like displays of the things to be downloaded. The > Cinnamon > one at the top is fine. Open a terminal from the bottom left of the > Linux > screen, and "sudo gparted" in that Terminal, to get started. > > https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/linuxmint/stable/22.1/ > > Paul I have gparted on a usb boot drive and will that work without using Mint, etc. <Bill>
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Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-24 10:14 -0400
Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 07:20 -0700
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Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-05-26 10:05 -0800
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Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-27 03:32 -0400
Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-05-27 09:43 -0800
Re: Can I update W10 to W11 with the iso? "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-05-27 10:13 -0800
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